Jul 12, 2016 19:50
7 yrs ago
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German term
zeitnahe Stichtagsinventur
German to English
Bus/Financial
Manufacturing
Inventory-taking
Hello,
does anyone know a corresponding English term?
Explanation: "In diesem Fall müssen die Inventur innerhalb von 10 Tagen vor oder nach dem Stichtag durchgeführt und die Veränderungen zwischen dem Stichtag und dem Inventurtag mittels Belegen dokumentiert werden."
Thanks,
Holly
does anyone know a corresponding English term?
Explanation: "In diesem Fall müssen die Inventur innerhalb von 10 Tagen vor oder nach dem Stichtag durchgeführt und die Veränderungen zwischen dem Stichtag und dem Inventurtag mittels Belegen dokumentiert werden."
Thanks,
Holly
Proposed translations
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Change log
Sep 23, 2023 11:17: Steffen Walter changed "Field" from "Other" to "Bus/Financial"
Proposed translations
9 days
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shortly/ten days before or after the balance sheet date/year-end
Pieced together from discussion entries:
Stichtagsinventur = am Bilanzstichtag (balance sheet date, year-end)
http://wirtschaftslexikon.gabler.de/Definition/stichtagsinve...
https://www.wiwiweb.de/buchfuehrung/grundlagen/inventur/vere...
http://www.accountingtools.com/balance-sheet-date
What seems to be the "zeitnah":
"When inventory quantities are determined solely by means of a physical count, and all counts are made as of the balance-sheet date or as of a single date within a reasonable time before or after the balance-sheet date, it is ordinarily necessary for the independent auditor to be present at the time of count"
https://pcaobus.org/Standards/Auditing/Pages/AS2510.aspx
The cutoff date is this here:
"It is the date chosen to stop the flow of transactions, merchandise, cash, and so on for audit purposes. For example, in taking a physical inventory, there must be a cutoff date applicable to sales and purchases. This may require closing receiving and shipping rooms while the inventory count takes place."
https://www.allbusiness.com/barrons_dictionary/dictionary-cu...
I don't believe you can say "around the cutoff date," as this would imply that you could stop the flow of goods ten days after starting your physical inventory count. As far as I understand it, that would only create havoc but no usable data.
Stichtagsinventur = am Bilanzstichtag (balance sheet date, year-end)
http://wirtschaftslexikon.gabler.de/Definition/stichtagsinve...
https://www.wiwiweb.de/buchfuehrung/grundlagen/inventur/vere...
http://www.accountingtools.com/balance-sheet-date
What seems to be the "zeitnah":
"When inventory quantities are determined solely by means of a physical count, and all counts are made as of the balance-sheet date or as of a single date within a reasonable time before or after the balance-sheet date, it is ordinarily necessary for the independent auditor to be present at the time of count"
https://pcaobus.org/Standards/Auditing/Pages/AS2510.aspx
The cutoff date is this here:
"It is the date chosen to stop the flow of transactions, merchandise, cash, and so on for audit purposes. For example, in taking a physical inventory, there must be a cutoff date applicable to sales and purchases. This may require closing receiving and shipping rooms while the inventory count takes place."
https://www.allbusiness.com/barrons_dictionary/dictionary-cu...
I don't believe you can say "around the cutoff date," as this would imply that you could stop the flow of goods ten days after starting your physical inventory count. As far as I understand it, that would only create havoc but no usable data.
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inventory deadline
The term you're requesting is not in the source text provided.
In this case, inventory must be taken within ten days, preceeding or following, the deadline. All differences/changes occurring between the deadline and inventory day must be documented.
In this case, inventory must be taken within ten days, preceeding or following, the deadline. All differences/changes occurring between the deadline and inventory day must be documented.
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philgoddard
: We don't have the context, but I'm guessing this is the heading, in which case it should summarise the text below as concisely as possible.
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Yea, this little thing called context seems to be on the red list. Shall we ground a foundation? Save the Context Society?
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up-to-date inventory
According to Benz/Wessels Woerterbuch Logistik
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inventory on or around the cut-off date
That's the way I understand it.
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Armorel Young
: I'm not keen on cut-off date, but "inventory on or around the due date" would work for me
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Discussion
I think you're right by saying "or," not "and" - it's always a tricky one, in either language.
Was a bit unsure at first, but every other source seems to be the same:
"Stichtagsinventur
Bestandsaufnahme für einen bestimmten Tag, wobei sie 10 Tage vor oder nach dem Bilanzstichtag vorgenommen werden darf."
bestimmten Tag = cutoff date
Bilanzstichtag = balance sheet date
In any case, thank you for the feedback! I know the feeling of being "locked out," pardon the pun, so I understand.
Have a great day!
"Die Inventur muss zeitnah, jedoch nicht genau am Bilanzstichtag stattfinden, es gibt eine Frist von 10 Tagen vor und nach dem Stichtag, an dem sie durchgeführt werden kann."
http://www.rechnungswesen-portal.de/Fachinfo/Grundlagen/Stic...
"Most businesses determine what to include in inventory at the end of the accounting period. The last day of the period is the inventory cutoff date. Establishing an inventory cutoff date is important when there are goods in transit between the business and its customers, or between the company and its suppliers. For example, a business ordered inventory on Dec. 28 and received it on Jan 3. If the inventory cutoff date is Dec. 30, the inventory in transit should be included in the company's financial statements."
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/included-inventory-25229.html
So if I understand that correctly, the cutoff date (meaning when you actually start your count, since everything is "cut off") can be ten days before or after the balance sheet date (the year-end, where it normally takes place).
So both can overlap, but they don't have to. What do you think?
However:
"shortly before or after the cut-off date"
- That's what I explained below. It's the balance sheet date. You can't start counting ten days after the cutoff date, that'll most likely get you into a lot of trouble :-/
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/IParty_(IPT)/Inventory_Relate...
https://www.allbusiness.com/barrons_dictionary/dictionary-cu...
As far as I understand it, you cannot make a physical inventory count around a cutoff date, since the cutoff date (when sales and purchases are "cut off") is the "Stichtag" (which may or may not be the "balance sheet date", see: http://wirtschaftslexikon.gabler.de/Definition/stichtagsinve... ; will slightly edit my other post below).
Agree with Phil, though, that it'd be good to know whether this term is used as part of a title or in body text.
Stichtagsinventur = am Bilanzstichtag (balance sheet date)
https://www.wiwiweb.de/buchfuehrung/grundlagen/inventur/vere...
http://www.accountingtools.com/balance-sheet-date
At least, most of the time it is the same date.
What seems to be your "zeitnah":
"When inventory quantities are determined solely by means of a physical count, and all counts are made as of the balance-sheet date or as of a single date within a reasonable time before or after the balance-sheet date, it is ordinarily necessary for the independent auditor to be present at the time of count"
https://pcaobus.org/Standards/Auditing/Pages/AS2510.aspx
https://books.google.de/books?id=77Ic-TZdp_QC&pg=PA311&lpg=P...