Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
oferta de rigor
English translation:
standard proposal
Added to glossary by
patinba
Aug 7, 2016 13:45
7 yrs ago
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Spanish term
Argentina
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oferta de rigor
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idiomatic expression
This is from a script by an Argentine filmmaker. The scene is a US government official trying to negotiate a shady deal with an Argentine president:
MC DONALD (CONT'D)
Tenemos información de la institución en Barbados donde su gobierno suele realizar estas operaciones.
Es una oferta de rigor en este tipo de cuestiones, y a menudo es utilizada por las grandes naciones para fines humanitarios que no pueden aparecer dentro de los presupuestos ortodoxos.
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MC DONALD (CONT'D)
Tenemos información de la institución en Barbados donde su gobierno suele realizar estas operaciones.
Es una oferta de rigor en este tipo de cuestiones, y a menudo es utilizada por las grandes naciones para fines humanitarios que no pueden aparecer dentro de los presupuestos ortodoxos.
Thanks
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Aug 21, 2016 12:15: patinba Created KOG entry
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standard proposal
... in cases like this
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franglish
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Thank you!
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JohnMcDove
: This is what it means. It may miss a hint of irony or sarcasm, but I agree with "standard" offer... :-)
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Thank you, John!
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pseudo-statutory offer
An offer 'de rigueur' doesn't fit the bill.
Perhaps this in Argentina is meant ironically...
Perhaps this in Argentina is meant ironically...
Example sentence:
FCC's attitude toward collocation ranged from favoritism to pseudo-regulation.
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: This is reported speech by a corrupt official: do you really think he/she would say "pseudo-statutory" if he/she was trying to make the deal look kosher?
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It wasn't clear to me who was uttering these words - but it looked like a 'token offer' to me.//No. It's pseudo-regulation offer.
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usual offer / expected (as per usual) offer
It is the usual (as per the book / routine / comme il faut) offer.
If you want to have a bit of a pedantic register (of which there is a hint in the original) then something like "ubiquitous offer" may fit the bill.
In Spanish "de rigor" as defined by Moliner (Diccionario de uso del español) is,
de rigor Impuesto por las reglas de cortesía o por ciertas circunstancias: ‘Después de los saludos de rigor... Le di los consejos de rigor’. *Obligado. Se dice de lo que se hace invariablemente en el caso o situación de que se trata: ‘Le gastó las bromitas de rigor’. *Consabido.
"consabida" (usual-habitual)
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/translate/spanish-english/...
In other words, the Spanish expression "de rigor", implies a subjection to the known formalities, the conventionality, the specific ceremonies... the "now I-am-supposed-to"s
The "rules" of the game... behaving "comme il faut".
Saludos cordiales... (distintos a los "saludos de rigor"... ;-)
If you want to have a bit of a pedantic register (of which there is a hint in the original) then something like "ubiquitous offer" may fit the bill.
In Spanish "de rigor" as defined by Moliner (Diccionario de uso del español) is,
de rigor Impuesto por las reglas de cortesía o por ciertas circunstancias: ‘Después de los saludos de rigor... Le di los consejos de rigor’. *Obligado. Se dice de lo que se hace invariablemente en el caso o situación de que se trata: ‘Le gastó las bromitas de rigor’. *Consabido.
"consabida" (usual-habitual)
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/translate/spanish-english/...
In other words, the Spanish expression "de rigor", implies a subjection to the known formalities, the conventionality, the specific ceremonies... the "now I-am-supposed-to"s
The "rules" of the game... behaving "comme il faut".
Saludos cordiales... (distintos a los "saludos de rigor"... ;-)
3 hrs
AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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United Kingdom
Sensible solutions
Native in: English (Variant: Wessexois)
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
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577
above board proposal
the official is trying to make the proposal what it is not
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Maybe also:
kosher
bona fide
fair and square
up front
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straightforward
regular
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Maybe also:
kosher
bona fide
fair and square
up front
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straightforward
regular
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Andy Watkinson
: The original apparently refers to a "shady deal"¿?
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thanks!
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Adrian MM. (X)
: You reall must tune into the Argentinian way of thinking.//With one Spanish grandmother and Anglo-Argentinian friends, I reckon I'm already one-quarter of the way there.
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No more an easy task for me than for thee m'learned friend/amigo
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David Hollywood
Native in English
worked for int. orgs (IMF, OAS, IDB)
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
Related KudoZ points
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700
offer that can't be refused
I would say
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now that's shady in the sense of "take it or leave it" and the implication is that they'd better take it
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a "take it or leave it" offer/proposal
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now that's shady in the sense of "take it or leave it" and the implication is that they'd better take it
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a "take it or leave it" offer/proposal
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JohnMcDove
: David, maybe I am missing something, but I don't quite get the connection... What you propose here seems a bit too stretched to me.
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