Aug 7, 2018 13:11
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Avoir un tempérament commercial
French to English
Bus/Financial
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Hi,
I need some help, I need to translate this expression in english:"avoir un tempérament commercial", in context of a job offer. The candidate needs to "avoir un tempérament commercial".
I tried "to have a commercial disposition", but I don't know if it's right. To me having a commercial temper, could not be the right one, and what about "having a business character"?
Well, I can't manage to find the right one by myself, so I'm asking for some help.
Thank you for your answers.
I need some help, I need to translate this expression in english:"avoir un tempérament commercial", in context of a job offer. The candidate needs to "avoir un tempérament commercial".
I tried "to have a commercial disposition", but I don't know if it's right. To me having a commercial temper, could not be the right one, and what about "having a business character"?
Well, I can't manage to find the right one by myself, so I'm asking for some help.
Thank you for your answers.
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Change log
Aug 7, 2018 13:50: writeaway changed "Field" from "Marketing" to "Bus/Financial" , "Field (write-in)" from "Commercial" to "(none)"
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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Psychologist, Court-certified legal
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English
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to be commercially-minded; to be a natural saleman/woman
Tons of possibilities depending on register. "Commercial" describes something to do with sales, generally, although "business" can be a good option, depending on context.
The term "tempérament" is a little unusual. It refers to a type of personality or characteristic. I think that is something important to bring out, whatever choice you make.
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saleSman/woman
The term "tempérament" is a little unusual. It refers to a type of personality or characteristic. I think that is something important to bring out, whatever choice you make.
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saleSman/woman
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writeaway
: or just good business sense. apparently this is a job ad.
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Tony M
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David Hayes
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Kevin Oheix
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GILLES MEUNIER
: parfait
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Carolina Bruil
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Comment: "Thank you so very much, your answer helped me a lot!!"
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Ana Vozone
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Will do!
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Works in: English to Portuguese, French to Portuguese, German to Portuguese, and 1 more.
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French term (edited):
tempérament commercial
business acumen
https://www.mightyrecruiter.com/recruiter-guide/hiring/why-c...
https://smallbusiness.chron.com/strong-general-business-acum...
https://smallbusiness.chron.com/strong-general-business-acum...
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| Thank you so very much!! Your answer was very helpful too!! |
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Tony M
: Could work, although it would help to know what kind of job this is: if it's a simple salesperson in retail, this might be a bit OTT. / OK, now we now it is just for a sales job, I think this is perhaps less suitable than for, say, an entrepreneur...
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I think you are probably right, Tony ;)
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Jennifer White
: Yes, or maybe "have a head for business"?
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Thank you, Jennifer!
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philgoddard
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Thank you, Phil!
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Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
United States
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United States
Laudable Lady Linguist
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 3 more.
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have a business temperament
I think the literal works fine.
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https://smallbusiness.chron.com/temperament-types-leadership...
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https://smallbusiness.chron.com/temperament-types-leadership...
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Tony M
: I can't help feeling 'tempérament' is a faux ami here — surely it has more the sense of 'mentality', 'way of thinking'? / I'm not suggesting it isn't; simply that it is a different usage in THIS context.
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Your comment is bogus, since this phrase is quite common in the business world.
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salesmanship
Now we have a bit more context, I think this is the kind of term that would probably be more likely to be used in an EN candidate profile.
Of course it is the wrong part of speech (FR is often constrained to add a verb that isn't always necessary in EN), so you'd have to work harder to fit it into the wider context, depending on the other items listed and how you've translated those.
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I think the use of the rather unusual term 'tempérament' here is something of a faux ami — a real trap to snare the unwary. Surely the FR term as used here has more the sense of 'mentality', 'way of thinking' than is normally associated with the EN word?
In other contexts, I can see that might be appropriate ('the right temperament to be a leader', etc.), but in the specific instance here, I don't think that really fits at all.
Of course it is the wrong part of speech (FR is often constrained to add a verb that isn't always necessary in EN), so you'd have to work harder to fit it into the wider context, depending on the other items listed and how you've translated those.
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I think the use of the rather unusual term 'tempérament' here is something of a faux ami — a real trap to snare the unwary. Surely the FR term as used here has more the sense of 'mentality', 'way of thinking' than is normally associated with the EN word?
In other contexts, I can see that might be appropriate ('the right temperament to be a leader', etc.), but in the specific instance here, I don't think that really fits at all.
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: Yes, an obvious term actually. Good 'un. I agree with your explanation of how to read and use "tempérament".
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Thanks a lot, Nikki!
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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Sensible solutions
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have a business attitude/mindset
Essential here to see that it's something being asked for by an employer
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Tony M
: Yes, but for a post of salesperson, I don't really think 'business' is the appropriate term; remember in FR 'commerce' is 'selling things', and 'business' is 'entreprise'
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Commercial temperament
At the risk of sounding too cynical, "tempérament commercial" strikes me as a euphemism: "Must not be averse to high-pressure sales tactics". But whether or not I'm reading to deeply between the lines here, the English term "temperament" seems to carry the same connotation.
So why not take the direct route and go with "commercial temperament"?
So why not take the direct route and go with "commercial temperament"?
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Tony M
: As I have said before, I believe there is a subtle but important difference in the way 'temperament' is used bwteen FR and EN; in addition, 'commercial' in EN doesn't have the same connotation of 'sales' it has in FR.
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I agree with you for 'commercial' (too vague in English), but 'temperament' in a sales context implies doggedness in either language. And that's the implication that matters, I think.
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Wishing you a nice day and all the best!
"Skilful salesperson" - this would mean "avoir la fibre commerciale".