Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
mother's name (First, Middle, Maiden surname)
Spanish translation:
nombre de la madre (nombre(s), apellido de soltera)
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mediamatrix (X)
Dec 1, 2007 11:14
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English term
MOTHER’S NAME (First, Middle, Maiden surname)
English to Spanish
Law/Patents
Names (personal, company)
Se trata de un certificado de matrimonio y no tengo claro si sólo quieren el apellido de soltera de la madre, o si también piden su apellido de casada.
Muchas gracias.
Muchas gracias.
Proposed translations
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Change log
Dec 1, 2007 11:15: Fabio Descalzi changed "Field" from "Other" to "Law/Patents" , "Field (specific)" from "Law (general)" to "Names (personal, company)"
Dec 15, 2007 17:34: mediamatrix (X) Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Jennifer Levey
Chile
Chile
Native in English
Chile
Human-scale Globalization
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
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nombre de la madre (nombre(s), apellido de soltera)
As Fabio says, they are not interested in the mother's married name, which may not correspond with the child's or the child's father's surname (e.g. if she was unmarried when the child was born, or divorced (or was widowed) and remarried. They want the surname she had at birth.
'first, middle' can be translated as 'nombre(s)', and thus avoid the potential problem with mothers who have more (or less) than 2 forenames.
'first, middle' can be translated as 'nombre(s)', and thus avoid the potential problem with mothers who have more (or less) than 2 forenames.
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Ana Brause
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Maria Victoria Tapia
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NoraD
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liz askew
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Elizabeth Medina
: Es la respuesta más clara y completa.
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Henry Hinds
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Cristina Santos
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Maria Kisic
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Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
US Court Cert. 1980 Ph.D. 1981
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
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nombre de la madre (primero, segundo, apellido de soltera)
Mike :)
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María T. Vargas
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Gracias, María - Mike :)
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jacana54 (X)
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Gracias, Lucia - Mike :)
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Gracias, Carolina - Mike :)
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Gracias, nigthgirl - Mke :)
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Jordi Sanchis
Spain
Spain
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Spain
8+ years in the translation industry
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Works in: English to Spanish, Catalan to Spanish
nombre de la madre (nombre y apellido de soltera)
"maiden surname" sólo puede hacer referencia al apellido de soltera.
Si está/esuvo casada, entiendo que su apellido de casada aparecerá en la sección father's name.
No veo la confusión.
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El término "nombre" incluye posibles nombres compuestos, es decir, Juan Carlos es un nombre, no he visto nunca "nombres" en plural referido a una persona. Al menos, en España.
Si está/esuvo casada, entiendo que su apellido de casada aparecerá en la sección father's name.
No veo la confusión.
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El término "nombre" incluye posibles nombres compuestos, es decir, Juan Carlos es un nombre, no he visto nunca "nombres" en plural referido a una persona. Al menos, en España.
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Elena Pérez
: En español, en los impresos aparece únicamente "nombre" (que puede estar compuesto de varias palabras). En cuanto al apellido, podría quitarse lo de soltera, ya que (al menos en España) no varía. Otra cosa sería si se mencionase también el de casada.
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Efectivamente, gracias Elena
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Gracias, Blanca
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Rocio Barrientos
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Elizabeth Medina
: Y es la segunda más clara en mi opinión. :)
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Salloz
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Maria_Elena Garcia Guevara
Peru
Peru
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Peru
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Works in: English to Spanish, French to Spanish, Spanish to English
Apellido materno
No necesariamente se refiere al apellido de soltera. dependiendo de la procedencia como por ejemplo acá en el Perú se utiliza el apellido paterno y el materno para identificar al individuo. El que predomina es el apellido paterno pero en todo trámite gestión se utilizan ambos apellidos. En Brasil, por ejemplo el apellido materno es el que prima.
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Jennifer Levey
: 'maiden name' no es *necesariamente* lo mismo que 'apellido materno'. Y el certificado de Marien no es Perú, es de un país de habla inglés, redactado en conformedad a las convenciones correspondientes.
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Elizabeth Medina
Native in English
DipTransIoLET Sp>En
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, English to Tagalog, and 1 more.
nombres maternos (primer(os) nombre(s), apellido materno, apellido paterno (de soltera)
In Spanish, as I'm sure you know, women use their own names and do not automatically adopt their husband's family name, and the maternal surname follows the paternal surname. What is called the "middle name" in English is the second first name that a person may have (for ex., Juan Carlos -- Carlos is the middle name in English, but it also is Juan Carlos' mother's surname, in legal documents). For clarity, i.e., to avoid confusion, I would translate it as above. You may of course find/receive a better solution.
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Sorry, my explanation was confusing -- If a man's name were Juan Carlos Fonseca Valdés, Carlos could be Juan Carlos' middle name in English, were he to fill out some forms, but his "formal documents" middle name would be Valdés, his mother's surname, and Carlos would be his second name.
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Regarding if the mother is a natural child, then one simply assumes as her "nombre de soltera" whatever name appears in the place that would be occupied by a "legitimate paternal progenitor's" name. In Chile many natural children are surnamed twice their mother's name, i.e., Pérez Pérez.
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Sorry, my explanation was confusing -- If a man's name were Juan Carlos Fonseca Valdés, Carlos could be Juan Carlos' middle name in English, were he to fill out some forms, but his "formal documents" middle name would be Valdés, his mother's surname, and Carlos would be his second name.
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Regarding if the mother is a natural child, then one simply assumes as her "nombre de soltera" whatever name appears in the place that would be occupied by a "legitimate paternal progenitor's" name. In Chile many natural children are surnamed twice their mother's name, i.e., Pérez Pérez.
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Elena Pérez
: ¿Estás diciendo que Carlos es el apellido de la madre? Creo que te has confundido al explicarlo.
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Sí, total. Mis disculpas.
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Jennifer Levey
: If you put 'nombres maternos' on a certificate you risk causing confusion between the child and the mother; it would read (...)//Sorry, but no. Her maiden name will not necessarily be her father's surname (e.g. if she's illegitimate).
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Right, in my answer I should have just left it at "apellido paterno (de soltera)."
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Rosina Peixoto
Uruguay
Uruguay
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Uruguay
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Nombre completo de la madre
Eso incluye el nombre: Rosita, middle name: Ana y apellido de soltera: González. Aunque no diga - nombre completo- full name- se refiere a eso. No importa si es casada o no.
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