Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

antéglise

English translation:

antechurch

Added to glossary by mediamatrix (X)
Jan 20, 2008 00:12
16 yrs ago
French term

antéglise

French to English Other Architecture History Book About Charlemagne
Contexte:

"Par ces escaliers en colimaçon on accédait aussi à un solium extractum, espèce **d'antéglise** sur laquelle montaient les évêques et l'empereur pour être acclamé par le peuple."

It's a description of a cathedral.

Merci Beaucoup!

femme
Change log

Jan 25, 2008 04:09: Barbara Cochran, MFA Created KOG entry

Jan 25, 2008 10:40: mediamatrix (X) changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/123909">Barbara Cochran, MFA's</a> old entry - "antéglise"" to ""antechurch""

Discussion

Cervin Jan 20, 2008:
There's a picture here: http://www.peat.me.uk/photos/album/cluny-abbey-and-town/phot...
and this might help: http://thesaurus.english-heritage.org.uk/thesaurus_term.asp?...
ANTECHURCH
UF Forechurch
SN An addition to the west end of a church which is similar to a porch or narthex but usually consists of a nave and aisles.
CL BUILDING COMPONENT

NT NARTHEX (MEDIEVAL)

Proposed translations

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Selected

antechurch

Compare the English and French texts here:
http://whc.unesco.org/archive/advisory_body_evaluation/974.p...

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Note added at 8 mins (2008-01-20 00:21:07 GMT)
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Abbot Heito III (888-913) replaced the antechurch with a square choir and a broad western transept flanked by two towers.

L’abbé Heito III (888-913) remplace l’antéglise par un chœur carré et un large transept occidental flanqué de deux tours.
Peer comment(s):

agree Janet Ross Snyder
48 mins
agree Bourth (X) : Aka forechurch or narthex, apparently.
50 mins
agree Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
7 hrs
agree Bashiqa
8 hrs
agree Victoria Porter-Burns :
9 hrs
agree Cervin : See picture and notes above
9 hrs
agree Jonathan MacKerron : Webster suggests "portico"
12 hrs
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10 mins

anti-church

I know for a fact that antéchrist is Antichrist, so surely it makes that antéglise means anti (anté) church (église)... Sometimes it helps to break the words up.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Bourth (X) : The French "antéchrist" is an odd exception; it should really be "antichrist". "Anté" means "before", "in front of", of course, as in "antechamber" or "upping the ante" (which you do BEFORE you play your cards).
51 mins
disagree Richard Benham : "ante" is Latin for "before"; the "anti" in "Antichrist" is Greek for "agaisnt". The Old English word for "Antichrist" was "antecrist". I suspect the "e" in F and OE is a confusion due to the idea that the Antichrist will reign BEFORE the Second Coming.
2 hrs
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2 days 19 hrs

Westwerk

I don't like "antechurch" because the OED doesn't.

The only thing it has for "antechurch" is "see antechapel," where we find

ANTE- + CHAPEL.

‘A term used in the Universities for the outer part at the west end of a chapel.’ Parker Gloss. Arch. 1875.

Which is *clearly* not what we have here.

Lacking any sort of visual aid, I'd say that there's a possibility that we're dealing with a "Westwerk," an architectural feature which I explained in another one of your open questions.

The "solium extractum...sur laquelle montaient les évêques et l'empereur pour être acclamé par le peuple" might confirm this notion, since Westwerks were, apparently, originally designed for this purpose (or so it is thought).
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