Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
étude documentaire
English translation:
observational study
Added to glossary by
Sandrine Guyennet
Nov 16, 2009 13:50
14 yrs ago
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French term
France
étude documentaire
French to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
"Oui, petit, je voulais faire de l'étude documentaire. Je voulais dessiner pour les dictionnaires, garder la mémoire des objets que je voyais pour en transcrire une image plus vraie que nature."
I guess it is not "documentary studies", which seems to apply to movies only.
I guess it is not "documentary studies", which seems to apply to movies only.
Proposed translations
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Proposed translations
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8 mins
Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Arts/Academic translator - Art historian
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English
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observational study
This might be one way of saying it.
The Painting, Drawing and Foundations programs work closely together and share many faculty members. Upper level drawing courses build on the training and experiences provided in the Foundations drawing courses (Drawing I and II), as students in Drawing III (Life Drawing) go on to employ rigorous observational study of human anatomical structure and begin developing a more personal approach to descriptive drawing.
http://www.depts.ttu.edu/ART/SOA/nav/undergrad/degree progra...
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ABSTRACT DRAWING After spending the year on in-depth observational study of realistic drawing and painting, students then were able to use this understanding to “break down” the elements to create abstract artwork. Students chose an interior space as a reference point and then created their own abstraction of realistic objects or space.
http://www.slideshare.net/stacielsmith/online-studi-oteachin...
This observational study of a natural form is rather unusual in Rossetti's work. It is thought to have been drawn in a notebook taken to London Zoological Gardens.
http://www.bmagic.org.uk/objects/1904P432
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Generally used when an artist 'makes notes' from nature so that he/she can work the impressions up into another work - often used for anatomical details, for instance. Your artist is saying something similar in the quote you give.
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I should think the plural might be better in the passage you cite, if, indeed, it is a series of drawings that is meant. You will have a better grip on the context than us, though, obviously.
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Thanks, bibsa
The Painting, Drawing and Foundations programs work closely together and share many faculty members. Upper level drawing courses build on the training and experiences provided in the Foundations drawing courses (Drawing I and II), as students in Drawing III (Life Drawing) go on to employ rigorous observational study of human anatomical structure and begin developing a more personal approach to descriptive drawing.
http://www.depts.ttu.edu/ART/SOA/nav/undergrad/degree progra...
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Note added at 11 mins (2009-11-16 14:02:39 GMT)
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ABSTRACT DRAWING After spending the year on in-depth observational study of realistic drawing and painting, students then were able to use this understanding to “break down” the elements to create abstract artwork. Students chose an interior space as a reference point and then created their own abstraction of realistic objects or space.
http://www.slideshare.net/stacielsmith/online-studi-oteachin...
This observational study of a natural form is rather unusual in Rossetti's work. It is thought to have been drawn in a notebook taken to London Zoological Gardens.
http://www.bmagic.org.uk/objects/1904P432
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Note added at 13 mins (2009-11-16 14:04:29 GMT)
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Generally used when an artist 'makes notes' from nature so that he/she can work the impressions up into another work - often used for anatomical details, for instance. Your artist is saying something similar in the quote you give.
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Note added at 38 mins (2009-11-16 14:29:22 GMT)
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I should think the plural might be better in the passage you cite, if, indeed, it is a series of drawings that is meant. You will have a better grip on the context than us, though, obviously.
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Note added at 4 days (2009-11-21 10:05:04 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks, bibsa
Note from asker:
| Then does "study" or "studies" sound better? |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you!!"
4 mins
documental drawings
He wanted to do documental drawings.
Peer comment(s):
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David Vaughn
: The text doesn't show that - no way of knowing that the two sentences are repetitions of the same idea - the second sentence is more likely a refinement of the first, but even may be totally independent.
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True, I assumed that the second sentence was a "definition" of the first. If that is the case, then I think this is the correct term, isn't it?
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Helen Shiner
: I've never heard of this term being used in relation to drawings - documental evidence, yes. Research-based drawings could work, but they are generally called observational drawings, if indeed it is drawings at all.......
37 mins
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HugoSteckel
Switzerland
Switzerland
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Switzerland
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Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, Catalan to English, and 1 more.
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documentary work / to document things
I think these work. It certainly isn't documentary studies, I don't think... rather the desire to document things artistically, to provide "real" representations.
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it occurs to me.. if this is art, maybe it should be "studies of objects", as in Cézanne's "study of an apple", or simply life drawing.
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it occurs to me.. if this is art, maybe it should be "studies of objects", as in Cézanne's "study of an apple", or simply life drawing.
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Peer comment(s):
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David Vaughn
: I think this is as close as we can get. "Étude documentaire" is most often literally the research of documents, often in preparation for other research or work. Here the documentary research may come before his/her drawings -part of the global process.
11 mins
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Emma Paulay
: If it is definitely illustration, then "documentary illustration" perhaps?
1 hr
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emiledgar
21 hrs
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25 mins
(I wanted to become a ) documentalist
an option (although it sounds like she wants to be an illustrator...)
Note from asker:
| Indeed, he wants to be an illustrator. |
Peer comment(s):
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Helen Shiner
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentalist ?? Or do you mean a researcher?
14 mins
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39 mins
illustrative design
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Peer comment(s):
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FrenchPhD
: sounds good
1 min
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Helen Shiner
: This might be so, but the FR does not say so. I think this is too specific.
3 mins
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+1
1 hr
Transitwrite
France
France
Native in English
France
Une traductrice fiable et experte
Native in: English (Variant: UK)
Works in: French to English, English
to study documentary art(s) (and drawing)
Another possibility maybe, if you are not happt with documentary studies.
http://cdautah.org/about/docArts
http://www.documentaryarts.com/
http://cdautah.org/about/docArts
http://www.documentaryarts.com/
Peer comment(s):
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Verginia Ophof
: especially since the rest of the text mentions art work !
15 mins
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thanks Verginia
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Emma Paulay
: I don't think it's about studying, it's about doing studies, which is not the same thing. To study would be "faire des études".
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