Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
bousculer mes convictions
English translation:
reconsider
- The asker opted for community grading. The question was closed on 2011-06-03 14:54:35 based on peer agreement (or, if there were too few peer comments, asker preference.)
May 31, 2011 07:06
13 yrs ago
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French term
bousculer mes convictions
French to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
sculpture
Un artiste parlant de son travail sur le thème Monochromie:
"J’ai dû bousculer certaines de mes convictions afin de permettre une compréhension plus poussée de cette thématique dans mes réalisations récentes."
I'm having trouble matching verb and noun.
"J’ai dû bousculer certaines de mes convictions afin de permettre une compréhension plus poussée de cette thématique dans mes réalisations récentes."
I'm having trouble matching verb and noun.
Proposed translations
(English)
Proposed translations
+4
2 hrs
Colin Rowe
Germany
Germany
Native in English
Germany
Par Excellence Translations
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: German to English, French to English, Italian to English, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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12
Selected
reconsider
could work here with practically any noun, including those suggested above.
"I had to reconsider some of my pre-held beliefs, convictions, firmly-held views, etc."
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"re-evaluate"
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"revise"
"I had to reconsider some of my pre-held beliefs, convictions, firmly-held views, etc."
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Note added at 2 hrs (2011-05-31 09:35:57 GMT)
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"re-evaluate"
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Note added at 2 hrs (2011-05-31 09:36:54 GMT)
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"revise"
Peer comment(s):
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ormiston
: I also think it means he had to have a "re-think"
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Thanks!
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cc in nyc
: I like it more and more, especially after reading some of kashew's feedback
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Thanks! Yes, it was partly kashew's feedback that led me in this direction.
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Yvonne Gallagher
16 hrs
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Thanks!
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JAN SNAUWAERT
1 day 9 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
+3
6 mins
overthrow my preconceived ideas
I seem to remember using this before. In any case, it came to mind very quickly!
Peer comment(s):
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reorient
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Thank you.
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silvester55
2 hrs
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Thank you.
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Miranda Joubioux (X)
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Thanks, Miranda.
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cc in nyc
: I'm doubtful about "overthrow" in this context // Actually,l I would never use "overthrow" with ideas
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In my book a doubt doesn't merit a disagree, but thanks for your feedback.
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emiledgar
: Yes, knock out of contention
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Thanks!
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48 mins
Philippa Smith
Native in English
Works in field
29 years turning out perfect English
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
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47
shake up my ideas
I like Emma's suggestion, but I think it's maybe a little too strong: the artist would presumably not be totally overturning her/his convictions, but shaking them up to express the new theme....
Note from asker:
| Shake up or upset? I think we are getting there. |
36 mins
turn my ideas on their heads
Each of those sciences has had things that could TURN SOME OF THEIR IDEAS ON THEIR HEADS. Often times historians and the like try. ...
colleges-universities.helium.com/topic/5643-university-of-wisconsin
Between them, these two narratives almost TURN THOSE RECEIVED IDEAS ON THEIR HEADS. If Voltaire's copious writings remain less than tempting ...
entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and.../books/.../article719123.ece
TURNING OLD IDEAS ON THEIR HEADS. If you can't think of a new idea that excites you, try looking at old, well-used plots in a new light to give you fresh ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=1847160166...
What they've found TURNS MORE THAN A FEW CONVENTIONAL IDEAS ON THEIR HEADS. Does stress cause us to die younger? Yes, says the study, if the stress is due ...
www.saddleback.com/thedanielplan/.../thelongevityproject/
One of Toronto's most prolific musicians, avant guitar/sax/etc. guru Colin Fisher TURNS YOUR MODERN MUSIC IDEAS ON THEIR HEADS. From brutal psych outs to ...
burndownthecapital.weebly.com/ -
It's not that he wants to reinvent the world of design; he is simply dedicated to TURNING IDEAS ON THEIR HEADS and creating things that no one has ever ...
gajitz.com/intelligent-industrial-ideas-playful-home-lighting-designs/
This may be rather more than bousculer, but I think something more radical, less literal, than "shake up my ideas" is required.
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BOUSCULER ... 1. Bousculer quelque chose, quelqu'un, le pousser vivement en créant le désordre, en écartant, en RENVERSANT ...
BUT <3.> Modifier quelquechose avec brusquerie : Ces jeunes veulent bousculer des idées admises depuis des générations
[Larousse Lexis]
In the latter example, there is also the matter of interpretation. The youth in question (or some part of it) will claim (at some point) it only wanted to shake up the Establishment to get (minor) changes made; the Establishment (and, at another time, the youth concerned, or part of it) will claim it is Revolution that is wanted.
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Of course to make this discussion philosophical as well as artistic (to what extent is philosophy art, and vice versa?), we could attempt to determine the extent to which a changed idea is a new idea. If an idea is shaken up, and evolves, is the result merely a modification of the old idea (the same old building with a new coat of paint, but still just as fragile), or is it substantively a new idea (major structural renovation of the building to make it earthquake proof, essentially making it a new building)?
If an idea is turned on its head (and remains intact), nothing will prevent you turning it back on its feet again! Then again, turning it on its head enables you to more easily get into the mechanics underneath/lying it and make the necessary modifications. Still, once changed, is it the same old idea (car) with (minor) modifications, or is it essentially a new idea that, were it a car, would have to go through the French mines / DRIRE conformity testing?
colleges-universities.helium.com/topic/5643-university-of-wisconsin
Between them, these two narratives almost TURN THOSE RECEIVED IDEAS ON THEIR HEADS. If Voltaire's copious writings remain less than tempting ...
entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and.../books/.../article719123.ece
TURNING OLD IDEAS ON THEIR HEADS. If you can't think of a new idea that excites you, try looking at old, well-used plots in a new light to give you fresh ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=1847160166...
What they've found TURNS MORE THAN A FEW CONVENTIONAL IDEAS ON THEIR HEADS. Does stress cause us to die younger? Yes, says the study, if the stress is due ...
www.saddleback.com/thedanielplan/.../thelongevityproject/
One of Toronto's most prolific musicians, avant guitar/sax/etc. guru Colin Fisher TURNS YOUR MODERN MUSIC IDEAS ON THEIR HEADS. From brutal psych outs to ...
burndownthecapital.weebly.com/ -
It's not that he wants to reinvent the world of design; he is simply dedicated to TURNING IDEAS ON THEIR HEADS and creating things that no one has ever ...
gajitz.com/intelligent-industrial-ideas-playful-home-lighting-designs/
This may be rather more than bousculer, but I think something more radical, less literal, than "shake up my ideas" is required.
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Note added at 1 hr (2011-05-31 08:19:52 GMT)
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BOUSCULER ... 1. Bousculer quelque chose, quelqu'un, le pousser vivement en créant le désordre, en écartant, en RENVERSANT ...
BUT <3.> Modifier quelquechose avec brusquerie : Ces jeunes veulent bousculer des idées admises depuis des générations
[Larousse Lexis]
In the latter example, there is also the matter of interpretation. The youth in question (or some part of it) will claim (at some point) it only wanted to shake up the Establishment to get (minor) changes made; the Establishment (and, at another time, the youth concerned, or part of it) will claim it is Revolution that is wanted.
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Note added at 1 hr (2011-05-31 08:33:41 GMT)
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Of course to make this discussion philosophical as well as artistic (to what extent is philosophy art, and vice versa?), we could attempt to determine the extent to which a changed idea is a new idea. If an idea is shaken up, and evolves, is the result merely a modification of the old idea (the same old building with a new coat of paint, but still just as fragile), or is it substantively a new idea (major structural renovation of the building to make it earthquake proof, essentially making it a new building)?
If an idea is turned on its head (and remains intact), nothing will prevent you turning it back on its feet again! Then again, turning it on its head enables you to more easily get into the mechanics underneath/lying it and make the necessary modifications. Still, once changed, is it the same old idea (car) with (minor) modifications, or is it essentially a new idea that, were it a car, would have to go through the French mines / DRIRE conformity testing?
Note from asker:
| Thanks a lot: I notice "shake up the Establishment" in there. I think that's good too in my context, or maybe upset (disarrange?) is strong enough. |
| There's also "If an idea is shaken up, and evolves, is the result merely a modification of the old idea" that would apply as I see it. |
1 hr
polyglot45
Native in French
&
English
Native in: English , French
Works in: English to French, French to English, German to French, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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11
compromise on (some of) my beliefs/principles
I don't entirely read this like the others. I think that to get the message he wants across he has had to "faire des entorses" or compromise on some of the principles he holds dear
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juggle with
bend
shelve
turn a blind eye to
offload
make concessions
that's all, for the moment
sorry for the delay but had to go to the bank .... !!!
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Note added at 2 hrs (2011-05-31 09:27:26 GMT)
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sacrifice
put on the back burner
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Note added at 2 hrs (2011-05-31 09:22:48 GMT)
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juggle with
bend
shelve
turn a blind eye to
offload
make concessions
that's all, for the moment
sorry for the delay but had to go to the bank .... !!!
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Note added at 2 hrs (2011-05-31 09:27:26 GMT)
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sacrifice
put on the back burner
Note from asker:
| Great option - arriving just in time! Thanks. |
| "Shove/push aside" some principles? |
| "Jostle" was my first thought. Creative pushing and shoving! Probably not bad! |
+1
6 hrs
abandon some of my earlier beliefs
Suggestion based on the group discussion. ;-)
If that's too strong, then perhaps "set aside some of my earlier ideas."
If that's too strong, then perhaps "set aside some of my earlier ideas."
Note from asker:
| set/push aside is ok with me. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Yvonne Gallagher
: "set aside" is good
12 hrs
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Thank you! I've come to like it better than "abandon"
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Discussion
Then there's a cultural difference. When the French bousculent something, it's only after years of repression and anger, and the result is an overturning, and heads fall (literally, in the past). Maybe British authority is more flexible/intelligent, and has learnt to move a little when there's a shakeup, accommodating change and retaining the edifice intact. So, transculturally, bousculer amounts to "shake to the ground", maybe.
The change in the result for the artist is not revolutionary - more of a modification as I see it.
So, what do you think about "shake up" or "jostle(?)"?