Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
porte des savoirs traditionnels et possède des codes fondamentaux
English translation:
bear traditional knowledge and possess fundamental visual codes
Added to glossary by
Sasha Barral-Robinson
Apr 1, 2009 12:53
15 yrs ago
French term
porte des savoirs traditionnels et possède des codes fondamentaux
French to English
Social Sciences
Journalism
tattoos, art, magazine
Le tatouage porte des savoirs traditionnels et possède des codes fondamentaux. En même temps, son art se développe très rapidement, car la manière dont les gens perçoivent leur corps évolue très vite. […] Les plus convaincants sont toujours ceux qui ne tentent pas de faire fi de la tradition mais la détourne en respectant quelques points importants.
From an article on Sang bleu tattoo magazine.
From an article on Sang bleu tattoo magazine.
Proposed translations
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bear traditional knowledge and possess fundamental codes
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brings with it traditional knowledge and has it's own fundamental codes of practice
I think the main difficulty lies in capturing the correct mood of the verb. This text seems to be talking about tattooing in a rather mystical sense. "Possess" just seemed a little awkward here, as often English uses a more basic verb than the French. I also think that codes should be clarified, possibly as "codes of practice".
Peer comment(s):
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Catherine Gilsenan
: Yes. And I would even go so far as putting "The Art of Tattoing"
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Philippa Smith
: I feel that "codes of practice" is too business-like for the context, and that the codes are, as you say, more mystical and abstract.
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is rooted in traditional knowledge and draws on its own underlying codes
Another suggestion - basically some different verbs from those already suggested, and a different way of dealing with the codes.
I agree with the "art of tatooing" suggestion.
I agree with the "art of tatooing" suggestion.
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tattooing imparts/carries with itself traditional knowledge and indicates basic codes
Hello,
Traditional knowledge is imparted by tattooing and basic codes are indicated by them.
porte des savoirs traditionnels = carries with itself traditional knowledge
I hope this helps.
Traditional knowledge is imparted by tattooing and basic codes are indicated by them.
porte des savoirs traditionnels = carries with itself traditional knowledge
I hope this helps.
6 hrs
tattooing carries traditional knowledge/beliefs and is governed by inherent codes
... carries traditional knowledge/beliefs (note the plural in savoirs) ...
From reading your whole passage I get the idea that the overall issue is how to deal with traditional values and meaning in a postmodern world, with the imminent danger that the practice of tattooing and the motifs themselves (as cultural artefacts and carriers of meaning and certain beliefs) are deprived of their (spi)ritual meaning and absorbed by a “debased trivial culture”.
In this context, below article might be of interest (although it does not mention tattooing):
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/triumph-of-the-trivial-life...
Some critics did predict the triumph of the trivial. In his 1957 essay, A Theory of Mass Culture, Dwight MacDonald foresaw our "debased trivial culture that voids both the deep realities and also the simple spontaneous pleasures", adding that "the masses, debauched by several generations of this sort of thing, in turn come to demand trivial cultural products".
From reading your whole passage I get the idea that the overall issue is how to deal with traditional values and meaning in a postmodern world, with the imminent danger that the practice of tattooing and the motifs themselves (as cultural artefacts and carriers of meaning and certain beliefs) are deprived of their (spi)ritual meaning and absorbed by a “debased trivial culture”.
In this context, below article might be of interest (although it does not mention tattooing):
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/triumph-of-the-trivial-life...
Some critics did predict the triumph of the trivial. In his 1957 essay, A Theory of Mass Culture, Dwight MacDonald foresaw our "debased trivial culture that voids both the deep realities and also the simple spontaneous pleasures", adding that "the masses, debauched by several generations of this sort of thing, in turn come to demand trivial cultural products".
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