Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

élément incorporant

English translation:

incorporative element

Added to glossary by Chris Hall
Nov 25, 2009 23:58
14 yrs ago
French term

élément incorporant

French to English Science Law: Patents, Trademarks, Copyright Contract of a chemical nature
Dear fellow translators,

Context is as follows:

L’article 9 de la [directive] doit être interprété comme suit: un élément dans lequel est incorporé un produit protégé par un brevet qui consiste en une information génétique ou qui contient une information génétique ne peut être considéré comme une ‘matière’ au sens de la disposition précitée lorsqu’il est formellement impossible que l’information génétique liée au produit à caractère génétique exerce sa fonction dans **l’élément incorporant**. À cet égard, le fait que l’information génétique ait effectivement exercé sa fonction antérieurement, lors du processus ayant abouti à la production de **l’élément incorporant**, et pourrait l’exercer à nouveau si elle était isolée de l’élément en question et implantée dans une cellule d’un organisme, n’est pas pertinent en l’espèce.

I was thinking along the lines of "built-in element". Any help much appreciated as always.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 incorporative element
Change log

Nov 26, 2009 00:35: writeaway changed "Field" from "Law/Patents" to "Science"

Nov 26, 2009 08:03: writeaway changed "Field (specific)" from "Law: Contract(s)" to "Law: Patents, Trademarks, Copyright"

Discussion

Chris Hall (asker) Nov 26, 2009:
Sincere apologies rir... Upon doing further research, I believe that you have a very valid point. Apologies for my initial reservations about your answer. Chris.
rir Nov 26, 2009:
element incorporating the product or the incorporative element, which is the element that incorporates, it doesnt make sense to you Chris?
rir Nov 26, 2009:
element incorporating the product or the incorporative element, which is the element that incorporates, it doesnt make sense to you Chris?
Chris Hall (asker) Nov 26, 2009:
That is very helpful info writeaway... Thank you.

So I imagine I could say "the element incorporating the product" for "l'élément incorporant"?
writeaway Nov 26, 2009:
élément incorporant refers back to this: un élément dans lequel est incorporé un produit. it's the 'element' doing the 'incorporating'.

Proposed translations

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incorporative element

http://www.patents.com/Mannich-type-compounds-antioxidants/U...

There is some usage of this term, if u google it

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Note added at 22 hrs (2009-11-26 22:58:54 GMT)
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you can also use .....incorporator (the element incorporating, that incorporates)


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Note added at 1 day1 hr (2009-11-27 01:09:18 GMT) Post-grading
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Tks Chris, I'm glad I could be of some help. Regards, Rita
Note from asker:
There are only 21 google entries, which I would say means that this term is not very common. Many thanks for offering your help though.
My sincere apologies to both bourth and rir. I will be the first one to admit that I am sometimes too over dependent on Google and its number of entries / hits for my own good. Regards, Chris.
Peer comment(s):

agree Bourth (X) : Innovative, maybe, but perfectly clear, and already used in a wide variety of contexts, albeit only 25 Googletimes. Is Google to sound the deathknell of inventism in language?
6 hrs
tks Bourth, yes I agree google is not suppose to be the good source only and/or a TM ...
agree narasimha (X)
11 hrs
tks
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Many thanks rir. Kind regards, Chris."

Reference comments

27 mins
Reference:

EPC and EU Biotech Patents Directive 98/44/EC

Article 9
The protection conferred by a patent on a product containing or consisting of genetic information shall extend to all material, save as provided in Article 5(1), in which the product in incorporated and in which the genetic information is contained and performs its function.
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:...
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Rob Grayson : Looks good to me
7 hrs
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Reference:

à l'appui de l'explication de rir et de la réf. de writeway

Connection module for telecommunications cable and terminal element incorporating the same. European Patent EP0902501. Kind Code: ...
www.freepatentsonline.com/EP0902501.html

(WO/1996/033142) PROCESS FOR PRODUCING A CONSTRUCTION ELEMENT ...
(EN) The invention concerns a process for producing construction elements of the terracotta-based brick or tile type incorporating a given amont of mineral ...
www.wipo.org/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=1996033142

(WO/1994/014345) CIGARETTE FILTER ROD ELEMENTS AND CIGARETTES ...
Abstract: Disclosed is a filter element (21) for a cigarette, and a cigarette incorporating such a filter element, comprising an outer wall provided by a ...
www.wipo.org/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=1994014345
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