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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

Angle de torsion

English translation:

Torque angle

Added to glossary by Frank Foley
    The asker opted for community grading. The question was closed on 2010-02-08 10:54:09 based on peer agreement (or, if there were too few peer comments, asker preference.)
Feb 4, 2010 17:18
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French term

Angle de Mulon

French to English Medical Medical: Dentistry
Isolated title.
The subject is root canal treatment. The only thing I can find is "mulon" being a popular word for "meule", but that would give something like "stacking angle"!
I guess it could be a proper name, as it's in capitals, but I can't find a M. Mulon anywhere.

All suggestions (and novocaine donations) welcome.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 grinder angle or angle grinder
2 +1 grinding wheel
Change log

Feb 8, 2010 11:45: Frank Foley changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/0">'s</a> old entry - "Angle de Mulon"" to ""grinding angle""

Discussion

Frank Foley (asker) Feb 5, 2010:
Ha! You're gonna love this! The text was in fact "angle de torsion", I am now told by the agency: some sort of extraction error from a pdf! Oh well, all in a day's work...
Frank Foley (asker) Feb 5, 2010:
Oh, and in case you think I'm holding back info (!!): no diagrams, no similar words to "mulon", no references to grinding/abrasion/friction etc.
Frank Foley (asker) Feb 5, 2010:
SJLD: as I've already said, the subject is root canal treatment, the context is root canal files / helical drills. The "title" is in a cell, all on its own, and mulon is only mentioned once. "Grinding" is probable, given what these files do, but not proven. I've asked the agency, but they're not interested, so I'll close it.
Thanks everyone for trying.
SJLD Feb 5, 2010:
@Frank You've been asked to give more context and haven't. You say this is an isolated title. Where? All by itself referring to nothing? Is there nothing below this title? A diagram/photo? No other mention of a "meule", "meulage" "mulon" "meulon" or whatever? Difficult to help if you don't divulge a little more information.
Frank Foley (asker) Feb 4, 2010:
Thanks, Johannes, but with respect, if I'd found anything useful On Google, I wouldn't be asking here. Also, if the surrounding text was helpful, trust me, I'd post it, but the file is a rather disjointed affair. :-))
Anyway, if anyone's still awake and curious, the author is a Lebanese dentist, so it might be some Middle Eastern dialectal French doodah that we've never heard of!
Johannes Gleim Feb 4, 2010:
Even I did some translations in dentistry especially for root canal preparations with files (German, English, French), I did never encounter any "mulon". Could you please post some phrases from the paragraph following the headline "Angle de Mulon"? Googling did not return any valid hit. It's up to you!
SJLD Feb 4, 2010:
grinding angle would be "angle de meulage"
Frank Foley (asker) Feb 4, 2010:
Le petit Robert:

mulon [mylT] n. m.

• 1636; muidlun « tas de foin » XIIe; de l'a. fr. mule; du lat. mulutus « modillon » 

¨ Région. Tas de sel extrait d'un marais salant. Þ meulon. « recueillir le sel et le mettre en mulons » (Balzac).
Carruthers (X) Feb 4, 2010:
etymological knicker-picking Strong's Greek dictionary:
3459 mulon moo'-lone
from 3458; a mill-house:--mill.
Frank Foley (asker) Feb 4, 2010:
Yes, sorry, I should've said these were the rotating files that go in and clean the canal, so I guess grinding is the context. Looks like Dr Manu has it.
Ceci dit, "mulon" means "meule" as in stack, not millstone, so some etymological knicker-twisting seems to have occured there. :-) It would be nice to see just one occurrence of "mulon" in this context. :-)
Thanks all!
Johannes Gleim Feb 4, 2010:
With Liz We need more context to help you! If this is the header, you have certainly more descriptive text.
Carruthers (X) Feb 4, 2010:
Greek word mulon or mulos for mill (milling or grinding).
liz askew Feb 4, 2010:
oh...have just seen "meule"...Equipement dentaire Sirona. Cide 2003/2005, produits d'équipement ...
- [ Translate this page ]
Nous élargissons notre gamme de contre-angles pour utilisation spéciale à un nouveau contre-angle de préparation du canal radiculaire avec meule en ...
cidemeeting.com/equipement.../equipement_dentaire.php - Cached - Similar
liz askew Feb 4, 2010:
Dear Frank, any chance of providing a sentence before and after your phrase in French?
Carruthers (X) Feb 4, 2010:
"Meule" wouldn't be "stacking", it would be "grinding", which certainly make more sense.

Proposed translations

+2
12 mins
Selected

grinder angle or angle grinder

if meule is your word

Dental root canal-treating appliance usable for cleaning pulp cavity and/or ... 10a having the length 20-30 mm has to be ground with a grinder or the like, ... rod of the present invention having shoulder forming almost right angle; and ...
www.freepatentsonline.com/4384852.html

The crown is coated with heavily mineralized enamel and the root with a .... teeth have short crowns, well developed roots and a narrow root canal. ... Has been done to sheep with an industrial angle grinder with indifferent results. ...
www.answers.com/topic/teeth -

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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-02-04 19:27:57 GMT)
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Or grinding angle as suggested.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-02-04 20:56:28 GMT)
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Grinder, is a commonly used term in odontology.

Our high speed alloy grinder is a necessory equipment in prosthetic dentistry. It is used to polish all kinds of meta... China ...
www.tradekey.com/ks-dental-alloy-grinder/

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Note added at 3 days18 hrs (2010-02-08 12:06:42 GMT) Post-grading
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OK for torque angle then Frank.
Peer comment(s):
neutral liz askew : Angle grinder? My husband uses one of these in the building industry. Bonne journée Drmanu! But hey, maybe they use them in dentistry./As I said below, I don't do dentistry.
8 mins
Hi Liz, yes that is mentioned in the second ref but I would probably go for grinder angle.
agree Carruthers (X) : or grinding angle
9 mins
Thank you.
agree Lionel_M (X) : grinding angle. Please update glossary entry...:)
3 days 17 hrs
Of course Lionel, thanks.
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31 mins

grinding wheel

due to lack of context

http://www.uthscsa.edu/mission/spring98/root.html



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Note added at 33 mins (2010-02-04 17:52:17 GMT)
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The new instruments are an outgrowth of Dr. Senia’s 1989 patent with colleague William Wildey, DDS, of the Canal Master, still manufactured by Brasseler. Recalled Dr. Senia, "We got tired of poorly designed instruments that couldn’t clean patients’ narrow, curved root canals." Using a grinding wheel and a dissecting microscope, the pair made their own crude prototype of a new design. "With a lot of help from the university, we guided our design through the maze of patenting and licensing to market in 1989." The first check arrived in October 1989, and the royalties have long since paid all costs initially absorbed by the university.

of course, were this acceptable

it would =

angle of grinding wheel



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Note added at 36 mins (2010-02-04 17:54:51 GMT)
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EUdict | meule | French-English dictionary
Meule à cuvette · Dished grinding wheel · Rectifier à la meule · Grind with wheel · Meule plate avec embrèvement · Straight grinding wheel one side recessed ...
www.eudict.com/?lang=freeng&word=meule - Cached


Good luck with your translation.

Peer comment(s):
agree SJLD : yes, a "meule" is a grinding wheel but I don't think this would be used on actual teeth - a bur is "fraise". One can only guess really without proper context. In any case, errors should be checked with the client
2 hrs
Thank you SJLD! Much appreciated:)
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