Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

annexé à notre imaginaire

English translation:

Who gave us a/the vision

Added to glossary by Anna Maria Augustine (X)
Apr 14, 2007 11:59
17 yrs ago
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French term

annexé à notre imaginaire

French to English Other Religion Abbe Pierre
Oui, c’était tout ça, l’abbé Pierre, « notre » abbé Pierre que nous avions annexé à notre imaginaire, à cette envie du bien qui parfois nous caresse de son aile céleste.

Discussion

Anna Maria Augustine (X) Apr 21, 2007:
Thank you Dave!
David West (asker) Apr 16, 2007:
Well, it's not Abbe Pierre who touches us, but the desire for good. When it does we 'think' of him.
Anna Maria Augustine (X) Apr 16, 2007:
Touches us ever so briefly. We're not talking about mythical angels but someone who spent his life radically fighting on behalf of the socially excluded, the poor, the homeless.
David West (asker) Apr 16, 2007:
Hows about: Whom, in our minds, was synonymous with that desire for good that sometimes touches us with its heavenly wings...?
David West (asker) Apr 15, 2007:
Whom we all associated in our minds with that desire for good...?
Najib Aloui Apr 14, 2007:
something like "...is now given place among our myths..." (?)
Najib Aloui Apr 14, 2007:
Some wording in English to say that the real person has been "grabbed" by collective representations (belonging to the realm of imagination) and given the status of a "mythical figure"....
Martin Cassell Apr 14, 2007:
I agree with Najib and Richard, the earlier answer could certainly be improved upon.
Richard Benham Apr 14, 2007:
I think that answer sucks!
Najib Aloui Apr 14, 2007:
Perhaps a chance for a better answer!
Rowan Morrell Apr 14, 2007:
I would go with the winning answer from that other question - "captured/fired our imagination".
David West (asker) Apr 14, 2007:
Ah, ah somebody else on the Abbe Pierre trail!
Jim Tucker (X) Apr 14, 2007:
Many aspects of this passage have been discussed in recent days. Check around Thurs-Fri.
Martin Cassell Apr 14, 2007:
Dave, I'm sure this was asked very recently

Proposed translations

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Who gave us a/the vision

At first thought - captured, as attached to our imagination/realm of fantasy might be too literal.

So my suggestion is far different from the literal so far proposed.

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and whom, in our minds, we all associated with a/that/the desire to do good/desire for goodwill
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thx Anna Maria and all"
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taken to our hearts

I know imagination comes from the brain rather than the heart but I think this describes what we all (including atheists) thought of Abbé Pierre. Plenty of hits including

http://archive.thenorthernecho.co.uk/2002/6/16/
A hero we have taken to our hearts. Sir Bobby Robson's epic journey has taken him from the County Durham mines to the coal face of Premiership football, ...

article from www.mailonsunday.co.uk site
This wasn't the warm, maternal, Sharon Osbourne we had taken to our hearts.
(Yes, I realise there's a bit of a gulf between her and A.P. but horses for courses and all that)
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who has become part of our collective unconscious

'Imaginaire' is a hard one to translate to English. I've read books that refer to l'imaginaire; it's often used in the area of psychoanalysis, psychology. So, although my translation is not literal, I think it's close to how a native English speaker would best understand this expression. Also, given the status of l'Abbé Pierre in France, I don't think it's pushing it too far to say he's part of the modern French 'collective unconscious '...
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Abbé Pierre (whose figure) our imaginative life had grabbed

...This may help ...

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"Abbé Pierre whose figure now lives/dwells in the realm/land of our highest/purest/heavenly dreams, our aspiration for Good"...Perhaps something along...
Sorry, Dave, for not having been able to provide a better proposal.
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