Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
le peu de durée
English translation:
lack of longevity/limited longevity
Added to glossary by
Michele Fauble
Jul 7, 2005 20:23
18 yrs ago
French term
France
le peu de durée
French to English
Art/Literary
Wine / Oenology / Viticulture
champagne
Il faut avouer que d'un côté la concurrence des vins du Midi, plus généreux, plus colorés, plus durables, et qui sont devenus moins chers, que, d'un autre côté, le peu de durée de nos vins rouges, dans les années ordinaires, et dans les mauvaises caves, la rareté de leurs bonnes années, la difficulté croissante de les placer avec avantage, et enfin l'étonnante fortune, pourtant méritée, du vin mousseux, ne peuvent qu'achever de faire disparaître les derniers restes des antiques vins champenois non mousseux.
From a text from 1846 - before champagne had become the dominant wine of the Champagne region. Wines from the Midi became cheaper due to rail transport and local red wines coud no longer compete.
Is he saying they don't keep well?
Incidentally not really sure of the grammar of the second "que".
From a text from 1846 - before champagne had become the dominant wine of the Champagne region. Wines from the Midi became cheaper due to rail transport and local red wines coud no longer compete.
Is he saying they don't keep well?
Incidentally not really sure of the grammar of the second "que".
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 | lack of longevity/limited longevity |
Michele Fauble
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| 4 +3 | the short lifespan |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
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| 4 | the short duration/on the other hand, our red wines which hardly last at all |
Anna Maria Augustine (X)
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| 4 | the lack of keeping |
Suzy G
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| 4 | short cellarability |
Bourth (X)
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| 4 -2 | the limited shelf life |
Francis MARC
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Proposed translations
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Related KudoZ points
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16
French term (edited):
le peu de dur�e
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lack of longevity/limited longevity
... and blamed for the lack of longevity in the wines. ...
www.wineeducation.com/history.html
... delicious now, and is a wine for the short-term (to drink while the 1995s and 1996s mature). While it might get points off for its lack of longevity, it gets ...
www.wineloverspage.com/ user_submitted/wine_notes/4813.html
... of excellent quality that can be made into wines of exceptional quality. ... poor yields and reduced vine vigor, and ultimately a lack of longevity. ...
agronomy.unl.edu/viticulture/ establishing_a_commercial_vineyard.htm
Tasting Gamay wines. ... Gamay is appreciated for its fresh aromas therefore - even because of its limited longevity - it is not appropriate to talk about ...
www.diwinetaste.com/dwt/en2005033.php
Name and longevity of Alsatian wines. Name of the wine. Longevity.
www.chez.com/bibs/AlsaceA/alsace1.html
... the secret ingredient for his wines longevity is gallic acid and referred to ... What does lend Biondi Santi its longevity? It is not tannin: they were ...
www.wine-journal.com/brunello_biondi_vertical.html
Hanzell Vineyards continues the Zellerbach vision with wines of intensity, grace and longevity prized by collectors and connoisseurs from around the planet. ...
www.hanzell.com/
What accounts for the wine's extraordinary longevity? ... of a vertical Insignia tasting which included 15 wines beginning with the inaugural 1974 vintage. ...
www.jpvwines.com/general_news_spring2002.html
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Note added at 22 hrs 46 mins (2005-07-08 19:10:14 GMT)
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also \'short longevity\'
Take advantage of the short longevity of this wine which should yield some ...
winecask.blogspot.com/2005/04/ beaujolais-villages-nouveau-2004-in.htm
www.wineeducation.com/history.html
... delicious now, and is a wine for the short-term (to drink while the 1995s and 1996s mature). While it might get points off for its lack of longevity, it gets ...
www.wineloverspage.com/ user_submitted/wine_notes/4813.html
... of excellent quality that can be made into wines of exceptional quality. ... poor yields and reduced vine vigor, and ultimately a lack of longevity. ...
agronomy.unl.edu/viticulture/ establishing_a_commercial_vineyard.htm
Tasting Gamay wines. ... Gamay is appreciated for its fresh aromas therefore - even because of its limited longevity - it is not appropriate to talk about ...
www.diwinetaste.com/dwt/en2005033.php
Name and longevity of Alsatian wines. Name of the wine. Longevity.
www.chez.com/bibs/AlsaceA/alsace1.html
... the secret ingredient for his wines longevity is gallic acid and referred to ... What does lend Biondi Santi its longevity? It is not tannin: they were ...
www.wine-journal.com/brunello_biondi_vertical.html
Hanzell Vineyards continues the Zellerbach vision with wines of intensity, grace and longevity prized by collectors and connoisseurs from around the planet. ...
www.hanzell.com/
What accounts for the wine's extraordinary longevity? ... of a vertical Insignia tasting which included 15 wines beginning with the inaugural 1974 vintage. ...
www.jpvwines.com/general_news_spring2002.html
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Note added at 22 hrs 46 mins (2005-07-08 19:10:14 GMT)
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also \'short longevity\'
Take advantage of the short longevity of this wine which should yield some ...
winecask.blogspot.com/2005/04/ beaujolais-villages-nouveau-2004-in.htm
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks everyone"
-2
8 mins
French term (edited):
le peu de dur�e
the limited shelf life
Boxed Wine - FAQ - High End Wine in a Box - [ Traduire cette page ]
Does boxed wine have a limited shelf life even if it is not opened? Yes.
A bag-in-box wine has a shorter shelf life than bottled wine. ...
www.blackboxwines.com/boxed-wine-FAQ.shtm - 11k - En cache - Pages similaires
Asiaweek.com | Wine: Just in the Pink | 1/28/00 - [ Traduire cette page ]
Because its wine has such a limited shelf life, Hatten is more like a brewery than a winery, he says. Fruit-buying and wine-making are year-round activities ...
www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/ magazine/2000/0128/as.wine.html - 30k -
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Note added at 31 mins (2005-07-07 20:55:50 GMT)
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*** the shelf life is acceptable only for the exceptional sunny years (higher alcool degree), it is short for most of the ordinary years (less than 10° of alccol wines have a short conservation duration)
Does boxed wine have a limited shelf life even if it is not opened? Yes.
A bag-in-box wine has a shorter shelf life than bottled wine. ...
www.blackboxwines.com/boxed-wine-FAQ.shtm - 11k - En cache - Pages similaires
Asiaweek.com | Wine: Just in the Pink | 1/28/00 - [ Traduire cette page ]
Because its wine has such a limited shelf life, Hatten is more like a brewery than a winery, he says. Fruit-buying and wine-making are year-round activities ...
www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/ magazine/2000/0128/as.wine.html - 30k -
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Note added at 31 mins (2005-07-07 20:55:50 GMT)
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*** the shelf life is acceptable only for the exceptional sunny years (higher alcool degree), it is short for most of the ordinary years (less than 10° of alccol wines have a short conservation duration)
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: not before 1846..the idea did not exist ..
1 hr
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| disagree |
Graham macLachlan
: I agree in the absolute meaning, however it is supermarket speak
8 hrs
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1 hr
French term (edited):
le peu de dur�e
the short duration/on the other hand, our red wines which hardly last at all
The short duration/on the other hand, our red wines which hardly last at all/last for a very short time
+3
1 hr
French term (edited):
le peu de dur�e
the short lifespan
for an old text
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Note added at 1 hr 24 mins (2005-07-07 21:48:54 GMT)
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the ques..on the one hand that
on the other hand that,
and lastly, X shall only bring to an end the disappearance of etc.
one long sentence..but it works for those times..
span of life..rather than lifespan..>)
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Note added at 1 hr 24 mins (2005-07-07 21:48:54 GMT)
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the ques..on the one hand that
on the other hand that,
and lastly, X shall only bring to an end the disappearance of etc.
one long sentence..but it works for those times..
span of life..rather than lifespan..>)
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Anna Maria Augustine (X)
: For people only? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lifespan
34 mins
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don't ever believe a free dictionary
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| agree |
Graham macLachlan
: I'd be satisfied without the "span", although "lifespan" can be and is applied to inanimate objects// maybe "don't ever believe a free dictionary" could become the KudoZ motto?!
6 hrs
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| agree |
AbdulHameed Al Hadidi
11 hrs
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| agree |
Vicky Papaprodromou
12 hrs
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| neutral |
Michele Fauble
: 'Longevity" is used for wines.
21 hrs
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2 hrs
French term (edited):
le peu de dur�e
the lack of keeping
i.e. how long a wine can be kept. As for the second "que", it's perfectly correct in French - could be replaced by the conjonction "et", but by repeating the "que", this provides as much emphasis on the first clause as on the second. You have to realise that "il faut avouer" is subconsciously repeated before the second "que".
Bonne chance !
Bonne chance !
5 hrs
French term (edited):
le peu de dur�e
short cellarability
En bref.
As for the "que", it is a fact THAT the sentence, being broken down into an, unfortunately, interminable series of subclauses and subphrases, each, at its own level, dependent upon that "que", consequently becomes difficult to make sense of, THAT the reader therefore gets lost in the innate ramblings of an author whose mind, enfeebled by many hours of hard translating, wanders ever more convulutely due to lack of sleep, THAT he - the reader - therefore needs a supplementary "que" to put him back on the rails, and THAT ... oh, the hell with it; time for bed.
As for the "que", it is a fact THAT the sentence, being broken down into an, unfortunately, interminable series of subclauses and subphrases, each, at its own level, dependent upon that "que", consequently becomes difficult to make sense of, THAT the reader therefore gets lost in the innate ramblings of an author whose mind, enfeebled by many hours of hard translating, wanders ever more convulutely due to lack of sleep, THAT he - the reader - therefore needs a supplementary "que" to put him back on the rails, and THAT ... oh, the hell with it; time for bed.
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