Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

à l’opposé de la fraîcheur minérale des agrumes

English translation:

without the mineral freshness of citrus fruit

Added to glossary by PB Trans
Feb 24, 2010 10:06
14 yrs ago
French term

à l’opposé de la fraîcheur minérale des agrumes

French to English Other Wine / Oenology / Viticulture chocolate and champagne pairing
un champagne à l’opposé de la fraîcheur minérale des agrumes avec un fort pourcentage de raisins noirs (75 % de pinot noir ou pinot meunier), soit un champagne légèrement oxydé, tirant vers les notes de tabac et de cannelle.

Discussion

Mark Nathan Feb 24, 2010:
mineral, minerality, minerally ...all get used in winespeak, "minerally" seems to be particularly popular.
Evans (X) Feb 24, 2010:
Either is used and they do mean the same thing, that the taste is fresh and mineral.
PB Trans (asker) Feb 24, 2010:
Fresh minerality vs mineral freshness Fresh minerality is more commonly used. Does it have the same meaning?

Proposed translations

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different from (those with) the mineral freshness of citrus

You could add 'those with' for clarity's sake here.
Peer comment(s):

agree Hazel Underwood : Or what about simply "without the mineral..."
1 min
yes, that would work too, thanks Hazel
agree Chris Hall
2 hrs
thanks, Chris
agree mimi 254
3 hrs
thanks, mimi
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Mark's "minerally freshness" was also a good suggestion, but my text is fairly lighthearted so I kept it as simple as possible. Thank you all for your help."
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offering an alternative to the minerally freshness of citrus fruit

...that turns away from fresh mineral citrus notes/flavours ....
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in contrast to mineral citrus freshness

By the standards of the time, this was a dry champagne of low dosage (addition of sugared liqueur) in contrast to most other houses' champagnes, which were then sweet.

http://www.dine-online.co.uk/champ.htm
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1 hr

far removed from those harsh citrus tastes

Like my proposal, I'm trying to get far removed from the literal and indeed from the French which I'm afraid I don't find particularly felicitous. Why minéral? Is it to distinguish between frais = "fresh, straight from the fields" and frais = "cool and refreshing"? Or is it to describe a hard, stony taste, a harshness?

I may be overinterpreting ...
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