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English term or phrase:
Modified Basketmakers
Spanish translation:
la época II / III de los canasteros // la fase tardía de los cesteros/canasteros
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Bubo Coroman (X)
Mar 20, 2008 12:31
16 yrs ago
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Modified Basketmakers
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It's a period after the period of basketmakers. During this period people started to make and use pottery, that's the reason they were called "modified". I cannot find an equivalent for this phrase; in fact, I don't know if "cesteros" is the correct exact equivalent for basketmakers.
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la época II de los canasteros // la fase tardía de los cesteros/canasteros
la primera opción (la época II de los canasteros) es según esta referencia:
... sobre el año 500 después de Cristo, calificada por los arqueólogos como la época II de los canasteros
http://members.chello.at/juan.carlos.bellido.gonzalez/Travel...
la segunda opción (la fase tardía de los cesteros/canasteros) es según se describe por aquí:
Archeologists divide this Basketmaker phase into an early period of about 400 years and a ***later period (sometimes referred to as "Modified Basketmaker") of about 350 years***. The Modified Basketmakers had several important traits which the earlier ones lacked: namely, the bow and arrow, which replaced the atlatl (throwing stick); beans, which added important protein to the diet; and a knowledge of how to make pottery, which permitted much easier cooking and better storage of perishables.
http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/hh/36/hh36a2...
por aquí a los basketmakers se les llama cesteros, que parece ser sinónimo de canastero:
Los Basketmakers —cesteros— se implantaron en los territorios montañosos y semiáridos poco antes de la era cristiana.
http://www.wielkaencyklopedia.com/es/wiki/Anasazi.html
... sobre el año 500 después de Cristo, calificada por los arqueólogos como la época II de los canasteros
http://members.chello.at/juan.carlos.bellido.gonzalez/Travel...
la segunda opción (la fase tardía de los cesteros/canasteros) es según se describe por aquí:
Archeologists divide this Basketmaker phase into an early period of about 400 years and a ***later period (sometimes referred to as "Modified Basketmaker") of about 350 years***. The Modified Basketmakers had several important traits which the earlier ones lacked: namely, the bow and arrow, which replaced the atlatl (throwing stick); beans, which added important protein to the diet; and a knowledge of how to make pottery, which permitted much easier cooking and better storage of perishables.
http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/hh/36/hh36a2...
por aquí a los basketmakers se les llama cesteros, que parece ser sinónimo de canastero:
Los Basketmakers —cesteros— se implantaron en los territorios montañosos y semiáridos poco antes de la era cristiana.
http://www.wielkaencyklopedia.com/es/wiki/Anasazi.html
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Comment: "Thank you very much! I also kept the english version between parenthesis as other of the members suggested! Thx"
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fabricantes de cestos modificados
nunca he escuchado cestero, pero sì que fabricantes de cestos se dice
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"cesteros"
I'm not to sure it's the correct answer but here and around the caribbean it is known as "cesteros"...
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"modified basketmakers" (explico abajo)
No debe traducirse ya que no podemos igualarlos a otros pueblos que elaboran cestería. “Basketmakers” es una muy controvertida categoría empleada para referirse a pueblos arcaicos de América del Norte. Muchos críticos la denuncian, pero sigue en uso.
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Basket Maker I
According to Grolier Encyclopedia, there is a lack of evidence supporting the Archaic phase. This phase is thought to have been a pre-agricultural non-ceramic phase.
Basket maker II
is fairly well known while Basket maker I or Archaic is hypothetical. This phase is named so because of the amazing craftsmanship and skills which were used to weave baskets.
Basket maker III
was an expansion stage for this group of basket makers. There was an introduction of several important new cultural items and beliefs. The pit houses became more structured and pottery was introduced.
http://csucub.csuchico.edu/services/SummerFld/UBCOMP97/ub97b...
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Sobre los Arcaicos en Norteamérica:
Los Hopi se refieren a sus ancestros como Hisatsinom. Ellos explican que Anasazi es un término que utilizaron los Navajo para referirse a su “antiguo enemigo”. Sin embargo, los medios de comunicación siguen utilizando “Anasazi” para referirse a los Arcaicos. Los académicos aplican distintas categorías para distinguir diversas culturas arcaicas, incluyendo “Fremont style” y “basket-makers” entre otras.
The Anasazi
http://www.desertusa.com/ind1/du_peo_ana.html
Like their cultural kin – the Mogollon and the Hohokam – in the deserts to the south, the earliest Anasazi peoples felt the currents of revolutionary change during the first half of the first millennium. Perhaps in a response to Mesoamerican influences from Mexico, they began to turn away from the nomadism of the ancient hunting and gathering life, the seasonal rounds calibrated to the movement of game and the ripening of wild plants, the material impoverishment imposed by the limitations of the burdens they could carry on their backs. They began living in small hamlets. They broke the land and took up agriculture. Over time, they acquired more possessions, stored food, made pottery, adopted the bow and arrow, domesticated dogs and turkeys. They still hunted and gathered, not as their only avenues for acquiring food, but as a complement to cultivated corn, beans, squash and other crops.
In the first half of their history, the Anasazi distinguished themselves primarily through the artistry of their basketry, which they crafted from the fibers of plants. In the second half, they left their mark on a much grander scale, through the construction of perhaps the most stunning prehistoric communities in the United States. The Anasazi would prove be resourceful, adaptable and, ultimately, the most enduring of the Pueblo cultural traditions.
The heart of the Anasazi region lay across the southern Colorado Plateau and the upper Rio Grande drainage. It spanned northeastern Arizona, northwestern New Mexico, southeastern Utah and southwestern Colorado—a land of forested mountain ranges, stream-dissected mesas, arid grasslands and occasional river bottoms.
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Note added at 4 horas (2008-03-20 17:22:32 GMT)
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Basket Maker I
According to Grolier Encyclopedia, there is a lack of evidence supporting the Archaic phase. This phase is thought to have been a pre-agricultural non-ceramic phase.
Basket maker II
is fairly well known while Basket maker I or Archaic is hypothetical. This phase is named so because of the amazing craftsmanship and skills which were used to weave baskets.
Basket maker III
was an expansion stage for this group of basket makers. There was an introduction of several important new cultural items and beliefs. The pit houses became more structured and pottery was introduced.
http://csucub.csuchico.edu/services/SummerFld/UBCOMP97/ub97b...
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Note added at 5 horas (2008-03-20 17:48:21 GMT)
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Sobre los Arcaicos en Norteamérica:
Los Hopi se refieren a sus ancestros como Hisatsinom. Ellos explican que Anasazi es un término que utilizaron los Navajo para referirse a su “antiguo enemigo”. Sin embargo, los medios de comunicación siguen utilizando “Anasazi” para referirse a los Arcaicos. Los académicos aplican distintas categorías para distinguir diversas culturas arcaicas, incluyendo “Fremont style” y “basket-makers” entre otras.
The Anasazi
http://www.desertusa.com/ind1/du_peo_ana.html
Like their cultural kin – the Mogollon and the Hohokam – in the deserts to the south, the earliest Anasazi peoples felt the currents of revolutionary change during the first half of the first millennium. Perhaps in a response to Mesoamerican influences from Mexico, they began to turn away from the nomadism of the ancient hunting and gathering life, the seasonal rounds calibrated to the movement of game and the ripening of wild plants, the material impoverishment imposed by the limitations of the burdens they could carry on their backs. They began living in small hamlets. They broke the land and took up agriculture. Over time, they acquired more possessions, stored food, made pottery, adopted the bow and arrow, domesticated dogs and turkeys. They still hunted and gathered, not as their only avenues for acquiring food, but as a complement to cultivated corn, beans, squash and other crops.
In the first half of their history, the Anasazi distinguished themselves primarily through the artistry of their basketry, which they crafted from the fibers of plants. In the second half, they left their mark on a much grander scale, through the construction of perhaps the most stunning prehistoric communities in the United States. The Anasazi would prove be resourceful, adaptable and, ultimately, the most enduring of the Pueblo cultural traditions.
The heart of the Anasazi region lay across the southern Colorado Plateau and the upper Rio Grande drainage. It spanned northeastern Arizona, northwestern New Mexico, southeastern Utah and southwestern Colorado—a land of forested mountain ranges, stream-dissected mesas, arid grasslands and occasional river bottoms.
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