Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

herbier

English translation:

A chemical discovered by some guy named Herb

Added to glossary by Mari O'Keefe
Jun 13, 2007 10:52
16 yrs ago
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French term

herbier

French to English Art/Literary Games / Video Games / Gaming / Casino childrens' video game
I'm wondering if there's some sort of play on words here that I don't understand. This appears as a random phrase uttered by one of the boy characters in the Titeuf comic. It's a comic aimed at primary school kids so it's very much the boys against the girls kind of vibe!

Au fait c'est quoi un herbier ? Un arbre à herbe ?! Les filles ne parlent que de ça en ce moment.

Any ideas are very welcome. Thanks!
Proposed translations (English)
4 A chemical discovered by some guy named Herb
4 +3 herbarium

Discussion

Emma Paulay Jun 13, 2007:
Hi Mari, I agree with the other comments. The girls are probably busy being good and doing their homework and actually listened in class when they were asked to make a "herbarium". Titeuf never listens so that's why he doesn't know what it is.
Anne Diamantidis Jun 13, 2007:
well yes, it´s pretty tricky, poor you ;-) Well, then in that case juste translate it with herbarium - at school in France we often have to make one, e.g. for biology class !
Mari O'Keefe (asker) Jun 13, 2007:
Hi Anne, thanks for all your help. Unfortunately I don't have any more context than this. I'm translating an Excel sheet that just has random sentences on it from the game. That's what makes it so tricky!
Anne Diamantidis Jun 13, 2007:
serait-il donc possible d´avoir plus de contexte - de préciser le cadre ? L´idéal serait bien sûr de pouvoir lire la planche dessinée entière, car dans les BD Titeuf c´est très souvent à double sens....;-)
Anne Diamantidis Jun 13, 2007:
Spontanément et connaissant le cadre de Titeuf (je suis une fidèle lectrice :p) j´aurais dit tout simplement herbarium, mais connaissant justement Titeuf et sa découverte permanente du sexe féminin je me méfie

Proposed translations

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A chemical discovered by some guy named Herb

"So what's an herbarium? A chemical discovered by some guy named Herb?"

Not a literal translation for obv. reasons, but playing off the confusion over the common stem (here -ium like helium, sodium etc., in French -ier for pommier, bananier etc.) combined with the root. I think mine is kind of funny.

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Note added at 8 hrs (2007-06-13 19:01:53 GMT)
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Unfortunately there are no trees in English whose common name ends with "ium" so the confusion has to shift to chemical elements for the pun to make any sense. The focus of the dialogue is still on explaining just what a "herbarium" is, so the digression is not too important in its details.

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Note added at 9 hrs (2007-06-13 19:56:05 GMT)
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Just to be 100% clear, the basis behind the joke is explained well above by Odette; all I am doing is proposing a translation that works in the context of the material.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "This worked really well. Captured the tone perfectly. Thanks, Andrew!"
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herbarium

Is a Herbarium a tree that grows herbs.?..Because in French, many trees' names are coined with the stem (fruit) + the ending «ier», but in English you have ium, so ...Children are known to make up words on models.

I could not see any double meaning, unless there is a context we are missing

If there is a list of trees preceding the joke, they should end in ium....
Peer comment(s):

agree Eric BILLY : nothing to add, so perfectly explain :)
4 mins
Thank you so very much
agree Anne Diamantidis
17 mins
Merci Anne
agree Vicky Papaprodromou
4 hrs
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