Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
étui foliaire
English translation:
foliar headdress
Added to glossary by
Helen Shiner
Aug 11, 2008 19:10
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étui foliaire
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Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
New Caledonian Chieftans
Is a part of the New Caledonian mourner's or death mask.
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Proposed translations
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| 3 +1 | foliar headdress/headdress made of leaves/grass |
Helen Shiner
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| 3 | foliar pouch |
Aude Sylvain
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Aug 16, 2008 11:26: Barbara Cochran, MFA Created KOG entry
Aug 16, 2008 16:56: Helen Shiner changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/123909">Barbara Cochran, MFA's</a> old entry - "étui foliaire"" to ""foliar headdress""
Proposed translations
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Helen Shiner
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foliar headdress/headdress made of leaves/grass
Foliar = made of leaves
I am presuming that in this case 'étui' means 'covering', i.e. a mask surmounted by leaves or grass. See my ref below and that of writeaway.
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Sorry, 'made of' sounds daft. Perhaps it should be 'topped with leaves' or even 'surmounted with...' if the text is scholarly.
I am presuming that in this case 'étui' means 'covering', i.e. a mask surmounted by leaves or grass. See my ref below and that of writeaway.
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Sorry, 'made of' sounds daft. Perhaps it should be 'topped with leaves' or even 'surmounted with...' if the text is scholarly.
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Comment: "Thanks, Helen."
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Aude Sylvain
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foliar pouch
voir p. ex.
Specimen Data - Pheidole anastasii - INBIOCRI001281510 - AntWeb
...Transect Type:. Wet forest. Nest in foliar pouch of melastome. Trail to Laguna....
www.antweb.org/specimen.do?name=inbiocri001281510
JSTOR: Epiphytic Myrmecophytes in Sarawak: Mutualism Through the ... - 8:35pm
... was hardly affected by other species" in Solomon Island coconut groves. ..... u n d e r s t o r y, small shrubs have foliar pouches of up to 1 ml in ...
links.jstor.org/ sici?sici=0006-3606(197412)6:4%3C237:EMISMT%3E2.0.CO;2-W
BIOONE Online Journals - Relationship between Plant Size and Ant ...
Both species produce foliar pouches, also know as formicaria and domatia, in which ants nest...
www.bioone.org/.../?request=get-document& doi=10.1646%2F0006-3606(2000)032%5B0100%3ARBPSAA%5D2.0.CO%3B2
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j'ai trouvé une photo : http://www.quaibranly.fr/fr/collections/promenades-a-la-cart...
Cela ne m'aide pas à choisir entre la proposition de Helen (que je n'avais pas vue lorsque j'ai répondu) et la mienne, malheureusement...
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- Classification des formations végétales d' - [ Translate this page ]
gaine foliaire, **étui à la base d'une feuille chez les Angiospermes**. GAMETANGE organe dans lequel se forment les gamètes de végétaux supérieurs. ...
www.protection-nature.org/glossaire-bota.htm
- 2ème réf de Writeaway, "LE MASQUE KANAK- coiffure constituée avec l’étui foliaire de la palme du cocotier... "
--> je comprends vraiment que la coiffure est constituée avec cette partie du végétale située à la base de la feuille.... (vs. avec les feuilles elles-mêmes)
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cette partie du *végétal*
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Helen,
Helen, reading your 2nd comment, I think I've understood your idea: do you think that, in the wording "étui foliaire", "étui" stands for "coiffure"?
My understanding is that we speak about a "[headdress] made from [foliar pouches]". The headdress is made from this/these "étui/s" (=pouches, or any more appropriate term).
'Coiffure (constituée de l') étui foliaire' vs.' coiffure foliaire'
Specimen Data - Pheidole anastasii - INBIOCRI001281510 - AntWeb
...Transect Type:. Wet forest. Nest in foliar pouch of melastome. Trail to Laguna....
www.antweb.org/specimen.do?name=inbiocri001281510
JSTOR: Epiphytic Myrmecophytes in Sarawak: Mutualism Through the ... - 8:35pm
... was hardly affected by other species" in Solomon Island coconut groves. ..... u n d e r s t o r y, small shrubs have foliar pouches of up to 1 ml in ...
links.jstor.org/ sici?sici=0006-3606(197412)6:4%3C237:EMISMT%3E2.0.CO;2-W
BIOONE Online Journals - Relationship between Plant Size and Ant ...
Both species produce foliar pouches, also know as formicaria and domatia, in which ants nest...
www.bioone.org/.../?request=get-document& doi=10.1646%2F0006-3606(2000)032%5B0100%3ARBPSAA%5D2.0.CO%3B2
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j'ai trouvé une photo : http://www.quaibranly.fr/fr/collections/promenades-a-la-cart...
Cela ne m'aide pas à choisir entre la proposition de Helen (que je n'avais pas vue lorsque j'ai répondu) et la mienne, malheureusement...
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-08-11 20:38:28 GMT)
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- Classification des formations végétales d' - [ Translate this page ]
gaine foliaire, **étui à la base d'une feuille chez les Angiospermes**. GAMETANGE organe dans lequel se forment les gamètes de végétaux supérieurs. ...
www.protection-nature.org/glossaire-bota.htm
- 2ème réf de Writeaway, "LE MASQUE KANAK- coiffure constituée avec l’étui foliaire de la palme du cocotier... "
--> je comprends vraiment que la coiffure est constituée avec cette partie du végétale située à la base de la feuille.... (vs. avec les feuilles elles-mêmes)
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-08-11 20:39:20 GMT)
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cette partie du *végétal*
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-08-11 20:59:54 GMT)
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Helen,
Helen, reading your 2nd comment, I think I've understood your idea: do you think that, in the wording "étui foliaire", "étui" stands for "coiffure"?
My understanding is that we speak about a "[headdress] made from [foliar pouches]". The headdress is made from this/these "étui/s" (=pouches, or any more appropriate term).
'Coiffure (constituée de l') étui foliaire' vs.' coiffure foliaire'
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: your refs have nothing to do with the context: Certains masques possèdent un manteau réalisé avec des éléments végétaux et une coiffure constituée avec l’étui foliaire de la palme du cocotier. ...
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Writeaway, as-tu cliqué sur les liens ? Les réf. se rapportent toutes à des végétaux, elles ont tout à voir avec le contexte !
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Helen Shiner
: do you mean that such things were attached to the mask - you do not say?/Hopefully someone will put us out of our misery. I wonder though whether your suggestion is looking for detail where there is none in the source, but I couldn't argue it either way.
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yes, I would think that they're attached to the mask, or that the mask/parts of it are made from them... but I am not an expert in death masks ! I may be wrong but I understand étui fol. as being a part of the tree on its own (besides leaves)
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Reference comments
13 mins
Reference:
[DOC]
La fonction du masque
Certains masques possèdent un manteau réalisé avec des éléments végétaux et une coiffure constituée avec l’étui foliaire de la palme du cocotier. ...
www.nouvellecaledonietourisme-sud.com/pressroom/account/doc...
[PDF]
LE MASQUE KANAK
coiffure constituée avec l’étui foliaire de la palme du cocotier. Des graines sont parfois utilisées pour marquer l’emplacement de la bouche. ...
neukaledonientourismus.de/images/File/fiche_le_masque_kanak.pdf
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mask :: Social and religious uses -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia
Dried grass, woven palm fibres, coconuts, and shells, as well as wood are employed in the masks of New Guinea, New Ireland, and New Caledonia. ...
www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/367906/mask/9059/Social-...
New Caledonia | Thematic Essay | Timeline of Art History | The ...
Upon the chief's death, this finial would have been removed and placed on his ... Wooden masks from New Caledonia (1983.17) were traditionally used as part ...
www.metmuseum.org/TOAH/hd/nwcd/hd_nwcd.htm -
La fonction du masque
Certains masques possèdent un manteau réalisé avec des éléments végétaux et une coiffure constituée avec l’étui foliaire de la palme du cocotier. ...
www.nouvellecaledonietourisme-sud.com/pressroom/account/doc...
[PDF]
LE MASQUE KANAK
coiffure constituée avec l’étui foliaire de la palme du cocotier. Des graines sont parfois utilisées pour marquer l’emplacement de la bouche. ...
neukaledonientourismus.de/images/File/fiche_le_masque_kanak.pdf
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Note added at 21 mins (2008-08-11 19:32:01 GMT)
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mask :: Social and religious uses -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia
Dried grass, woven palm fibres, coconuts, and shells, as well as wood are employed in the masks of New Guinea, New Ireland, and New Caledonia. ...
www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/367906/mask/9059/Social-...
New Caledonia | Thematic Essay | Timeline of Art History | The ...
Upon the chief's death, this finial would have been removed and placed on his ... Wooden masks from New Caledonia (1983.17) were traditionally used as part ...
www.metmuseum.org/TOAH/hd/nwcd/hd_nwcd.htm -
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Helen Shiner
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United Kingdom
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Reference:
If you check out this page you will see pictures of the grass headresses worn by the Kanak (the name they prefer to go by) people:
"Traditional Kanak gatherings were always accompanied by dances designed to strengthen relationships within the clan and with ancestors. these dances conveyed a message or told a legend, often regarding aspects of everyday life - fishing, a turtle swimming, a case (traditional hut) being built. Dancers painted themselves to appear beautiful before the gathered clans and to please the watching ancestors. The steps were powerful and the feet pounded the earth energetically. Wooden masks adorned with local materials such as bark, feathers and leaves - physical links with the invisible world - were exhibited or worn only by le chef (the chief).
These days, dance workshops are held to help Kanaks learn traditional movements or newly created dances - usually to perform them at large events such as the Festival des Arts du Facifique (Festival of Pacific Arts), which is held every four years and was last held in Noumea in 2000. Should you happen to be in Noumea when a cruise ship docks, you may catch a performance of We Ce Ca, a troupe of 30 young dancers formed to welcome visitors and to perform at special functions.
Kanak dancer wore grass headdress
http://www.janesoceania.com/newcaledonia/index3.htm
"Traditional Kanak gatherings were always accompanied by dances designed to strengthen relationships within the clan and with ancestors. these dances conveyed a message or told a legend, often regarding aspects of everyday life - fishing, a turtle swimming, a case (traditional hut) being built. Dancers painted themselves to appear beautiful before the gathered clans and to please the watching ancestors. The steps were powerful and the feet pounded the earth energetically. Wooden masks adorned with local materials such as bark, feathers and leaves - physical links with the invisible world - were exhibited or worn only by le chef (the chief).
These days, dance workshops are held to help Kanaks learn traditional movements or newly created dances - usually to perform them at large events such as the Festival des Arts du Facifique (Festival of Pacific Arts), which is held every four years and was last held in Noumea in 2000. Should you happen to be in Noumea when a cruise ship docks, you may catch a performance of We Ce Ca, a troupe of 30 young dancers formed to welcome visitors and to perform at special functions.
Kanak dancer wore grass headdress
http://www.janesoceania.com/newcaledonia/index3.htm
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