Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
asportation
Spanish translation:
sustracción
Added to glossary by
Flavio Posse
Aug 14, 2010 03:25
13 yrs ago
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English term
asportation
English to Spanish
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Law (general)
Criminal Law
The context is kidnapping. The act of taking taking/moving/asporting a person without consent.
Alcaraz Varó lo define como el acarreo de bienes robados pero no proporciona un término en Español.
"Generally, kidnapping occurs when a person, without lawful authority, physically asports (i.e., moves) another person without that other person's consent, with the intent to use the abduction in connection with some other nefarious objective. Under the Model Penal Code (a set of exemplary criminal rules fashioned by the American Law Institute), kidnapping occurs when any person is unlawfully and non-consensually asported and held for certain purposes. These purposes include gaining a ransom or reward; facilitating the commission of a felony or a flight after the commission of a felony; terrorizing or inflicting bodily injury on the victim or a third person; and interfering with a governmental or political function (Model Penal Code § 212.1)."
Alcaraz Varó lo define como el acarreo de bienes robados pero no proporciona un término en Español.
"Generally, kidnapping occurs when a person, without lawful authority, physically asports (i.e., moves) another person without that other person's consent, with the intent to use the abduction in connection with some other nefarious objective. Under the Model Penal Code (a set of exemplary criminal rules fashioned by the American Law Institute), kidnapping occurs when any person is unlawfully and non-consensually asported and held for certain purposes. These purposes include gaining a ransom or reward; facilitating the commission of a felony or a flight after the commission of a felony; terrorizing or inflicting bodily injury on the victim or a third person; and interfering with a governmental or political function (Model Penal Code § 212.1)."
Proposed translations
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| 5 +4 | sustracción |
Sandro Tomasi
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| 4 -1 | asportación |
David Hollywood
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References
| Asportation |
Christine Walsh
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Proposed translations
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Selected
sustracción
Según Coquibús, Diccionario selecto de Derecho y procedimiento penal, la sustracción es el “apoderamiento ilegítimo de una cosa mueble total o parcialmente ajena. Tal sustracción, el hurto, como el robo y la extorsión, las estafas y otras defraudaciones, los quebrados y otros deudores punibles, la usurpación, el daño, etc. Como también la indebida ocultación de documentos. Aclaramos que puede haber sustracción de personas, como en el caso de rapto, o de privación de libertad, si se la ha cometido para exigir rescate”.
En su tratado, Derecho penal argentino, Soler expone los diferentes argumentos que manifiestan varios tratadistas sobre qué constituye hurto en lo siguiente: “La discusión se circunscribe a establecer si basta la remoción de la cosa sin sustraerla del lugar en que está, o si se precisa el hecho de haberla sacado”.
En su tratado, Derecho penal argentino, Soler expone los diferentes argumentos que manifiestan varios tratadistas sobre qué constituye hurto en lo siguiente: “La discusión se circunscribe a establecer si basta la remoción de la cosa sin sustraerla del lugar en que está, o si se precisa el hecho de haberla sacado”.
Peer comment(s):
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Rebecca Jowers
: Yes, I also think "sustracción" would work here. (For example, "sustracción" is used in this context in Spain in the expression "sustracción de menores" when referring to what in the U.S. is termed "parental kidnapping.")
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Thank you, Rebecca.
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jacana54 (X)
: Coincido con el aporte de Rebecca, también. Cabanellas solo lo refiere a objetos y pone "transporte o acarreo de cosas hurtadas", pero para personas no diríamos "transporte o acarreo"
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Thank you, Lucia.
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Leonardo Lamarche
: agree.
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Thank you, Leonardo.
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Christine Walsh
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Thank you, Christine.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Coincido con vos Sandro. A propósito, antes de hacer la pregunta mi tendencia era utilizar "sustracción", creemelo. Pero tras consultar fuentes confiables y recibir distintas acepciones (muy distintas) decidí presentar el interrogante en Proz. Muchas gracias a todos. "
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David Hollywood
Native in English
Works in field
worked for int. orgs (IMF, OAS, IDB)
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
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asportación
... asportation I asportación I remoción ilícita de bienes ajenos. as-pressed compact I compacto prensado y sin ter- ...
books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=8479782994...
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remoción ilícita
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n. 1. (Law) The felonious removal of goods from the place where they were deposited. asportation. unlawful removal of goods from where they are deposited or ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/asportation - Cached - Similarasportation - Legal Definition
The carrying away or moving the personal property of another. It does not matter how short the distance or slight the movement as long as the person who ...
www.yourdictionary.com/law/asportation - Cached - Similar
books.google.com.ar/books?isbn=8479782994...
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remoción ilícita
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Note added at 7 mins (2010-08-14 03:32:46 GMT)
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n. 1. (Law) The felonious removal of goods from the place where they were deposited. asportation. unlawful removal of goods from where they are deposited or ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/asportation - Cached - Similarasportation - Legal Definition
The carrying away or moving the personal property of another. It does not matter how short the distance or slight the movement as long as the person who ...
www.yourdictionary.com/law/asportation - Cached - Similar
Peer comment(s):
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Sandro Tomasi
: No veo que asportación sea una palabra en español. Y según los tratadistas penales hay una distinción entre remoción y sustracción.
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Reference comments
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Reference:
Asportation
Asportation was one of the elements necessary to establish common-law kidnapping, and in many states it remains as an element of statutory kidnapping.
http://www.answers.com/topic/asportation
http://www.answers.com/topic/asportation
Discussion
Gracias por el enlace. Y creo que el traslado de la cosa, o persona, es la misma sustracción (ilícita).
Creo que lo que Sandro dice con la cita de Soler es que para nosotros por lo menos queda la duda de si el traslado de la cosa está o no subsumido en una sustracción.
Pero esta diferencia supongo que explica por qué agregan esa palabra que a mí me parecía redundante.