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Italian term or phrase:
variante Ogliastro-Sapri
English translation:
new line/route (new Ogliastro-Sapri line/route)
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James (Jim) Davis
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variante Ogliastro-Sapri
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Sorry, I don't ususally ask proz members to do my whole translation for me, but I'm having a bit of difficulty with this one ;-)....
variante as in Ogliastro-Sapri variante
talking about part of a train track. As I understand it, variante can be translated as a by-pass in terms of a road network, but what about trains, is this acceptable or is there another term? (I don't imagine it's 'variant', but then to be honest I've really no idea).
Many thanks!
Clair
variante as in Ogliastro-Sapri variante
talking about part of a train track. As I understand it, variante can be translated as a by-pass in terms of a road network, but what about trains, is this acceptable or is there another term? (I don't imagine it's 'variant', but then to be honest I've really no idea).
Many thanks!
Clair
Proposed translations
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| 5 +2 | new line/route (new Ogliastro-Sapri line/route) |
James (Jim) Davis
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| 4 | Ogliastro-Sapri branch line |
Being Earnest
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| 4 | Ogliastro-Sapri bypass |
Shera Lyn Parpia
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Aug 5, 2009 06:17: Emanuela Galdelli changed "Term asked" from "variante (Ogliastro-Sapri variante)" to "variante Ogliastro-Sapri"
Aug 6, 2009 08:58: James (Jim) Davis Created KOG entry
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Italian term (edited):
variante (Ogliastro-Sapri variante)
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new line/route (new Ogliastro-Sapri line/route)
As a tunnel specialist, I've been translating these "varianti" for years.
This is the new line or new route in the sense of one which replaces the old line. Obviously if the old line went through the town and the new one goes round, the new one is a by-pass, but railways don't by-pass towns.
From my database of old translations
Autostrada A1 - Bologna - Firenze – Variante di Valico
A1 Motorway - Bologna - Florence – New route across the Apennines
Il progetto di variante della linea ferroviaria a semplice binario Sibari - Cosenza, tra le stazioni di S. Marco Roggiano e Mongrassano - Cervicati, prevedeva la realizzazione di quattro gallerie
The project to construct a new route for the single track Sibari-Cosenza railway line, between the S. Marco Roggiano and Mongrassano – Cervicati stations required the construction of four 10 m. diameter tunnels
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I definitely wouldn't use "by-pass" here for the reasons given, even if by-pass is fine in the UK (I have fond memories of the Doncaster by-pass). New routes to replace old "accidentata" lines are often completely new alternative routes which do not "go round" the difficult part, but are often far from it.
This is the new line or new route in the sense of one which replaces the old line. Obviously if the old line went through the town and the new one goes round, the new one is a by-pass, but railways don't by-pass towns.
From my database of old translations
Autostrada A1 - Bologna - Firenze – Variante di Valico
A1 Motorway - Bologna - Florence – New route across the Apennines
Il progetto di variante della linea ferroviaria a semplice binario Sibari - Cosenza, tra le stazioni di S. Marco Roggiano e Mongrassano - Cervicati, prevedeva la realizzazione di quattro gallerie
The project to construct a new route for the single track Sibari-Cosenza railway line, between the S. Marco Roggiano and Mongrassano – Cervicati stations required the construction of four 10 m. diameter tunnels
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Note added at 1 hr (2009-08-05 07:15:20 GMT)
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I definitely wouldn't use "by-pass" here for the reasons given, even if by-pass is fine in the UK (I have fond memories of the Doncaster by-pass). New routes to replace old "accidentata" lines are often completely new alternative routes which do not "go round" the difficult part, but are often far from it.
Note from asker:
| Yes, I see what you mean perfectly...railway lines don't usually 'bypass' towns, although the 'tratta più accidentata della linea' suggests it was created to deviate traffic away from this area (that's why I was thinking along the lines of bypass). Also the google hits I found for bypass (re. rail) are generally US/AUS-related English. Don't know how likely it'd be in UK English in any case. Thanks very much for your suggestion Jim. |
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Italian term (edited):
variante (Ogliastro-Sapri variante)
Ogliastro-Sapri branch line
I need more information. You could say turnout but this is when a train is "deviated". I think this is about a separate section
Note from asker:
| Yes, as in Shera's reply it's a 'variante di tracciato'. I was just wondering about whether bypass is ok for rail as well as for road. There seem to be enough google hits for 'rail/railway bypass' esp. in US English. Thanks very much for your suggestion though! |
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Italian term (edited):
variante (Ogliastro-Sapri variante)
Ogliastro-Sapri bypass
See this text here; I think it is talking about a bypass as it uses the words "variante di tracciato", a variation on the line, which I imagine is a second line or bypass
http://banchedati.camera.it/sindacatoispettivo_16/showXhtml....
Si evidenzia inoltre l'intervento inerente la linea ferroviaria AV/AC Battipaglia-Paola-Reggio Calabria. Lo studio di fattibilità sviluppato nel 2005 ha individuato una prima fase funzionale dell'intervento, costituito da una variante di tracciato nella tratta più accidentata della linea, tra Ogliastro e Sapri, e da interventi di upgrading e velocizzazione della linea Battipaglia-Reggio Calabria. Tale fase funzionale consentirebbe di percorrere la distanza da Roma a Reggio Calabria in circa 4 ore e 15 minuti con un livello prestazionale analogo a quello del collegamento Milano-Roma. Il costo della variante Ogliastro-Sapri ammonta a 3.270 milioni di euro.
http://banchedati.camera.it/sindacatoispettivo_16/showXhtml....
Si evidenzia inoltre l'intervento inerente la linea ferroviaria AV/AC Battipaglia-Paola-Reggio Calabria. Lo studio di fattibilità sviluppato nel 2005 ha individuato una prima fase funzionale dell'intervento, costituito da una variante di tracciato nella tratta più accidentata della linea, tra Ogliastro e Sapri, e da interventi di upgrading e velocizzazione della linea Battipaglia-Reggio Calabria. Tale fase funzionale consentirebbe di percorrere la distanza da Roma a Reggio Calabria in circa 4 ore e 15 minuti con un livello prestazionale analogo a quello del collegamento Milano-Roma. Il costo della variante Ogliastro-Sapri ammonta a 3.270 milioni di euro.
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