Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
демобилизоваться в звании инженер-майор
English translation:
discharged as a Major in the Engineers
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Robert Donahue (X)
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Russian term
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демобилизоваться в звании инженер-майор
Russian to English
Social Sciences
Military / Defense
Military Science (expression)
В XXXX году он демобилизовался в звании инженер-майор и поступил...
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May 16, 2005 13:46: Robert Donahue (X) changed "Field" from "Other" to "Social Sciences" , "Field (write-in)" from "(none)" to "Military Science (expression)"
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was discharged as a Major in the Engineers / was discharged a Major in the Engineers
I have some personal experience with this. : ) Here are a few suggestion that are both understandable and allow you to skip the rank/service specificity issue.
В XXXX году он демобилизовался в звании инженер-майор и поступил...
In XXXX he was discharged with the rank of Major in the Engineers and went on to....
In XXXX he was discharged as a Major in the Engineers and went on to...
Here are some samples in use;
In 1946 he was discharged with the rank of major.
http://www.acu.edu/aboutacu/administration/stevens.html
Following his tour overseas he returned to the US in 1946, was honorably discharged with the rank of Major, and settled in Oklahoma City.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~okoklaho/obit/quillian-james.htm
"Grover. I am a major in the Engineers, stationed here for the present to look after this construction work. No, thank you, I should like to stay, but I must go back to my office."
http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/lit/drama/Shavi...
"Mr Ingram, a major in the Engineers, is known to be of impeccable character."
http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_403909.html
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To Nik-On/Off;
Whatever you decide to do with regards to at/with, etc, I wholeheartedly recommend using \"in the Engineers\" rather than Engineer-Major/Major-Engineer. This is from the Soviet times, so you can\'t say Corps of Engineers since this is strictly a western thing. Using \"in the engineers\" gives you flexibility. There\'s no need to specify service (ВВС, СВ, ВМФ, итд) and the reader will completely understand what is meant. \"...discharged...in the Engineers and went on to...\" I hope this helps.
В XXXX году он демобилизовался в звании инженер-майор и поступил...
In XXXX he was discharged with the rank of Major in the Engineers and went on to....
In XXXX he was discharged as a Major in the Engineers and went on to...
Here are some samples in use;
In 1946 he was discharged with the rank of major.
http://www.acu.edu/aboutacu/administration/stevens.html
Following his tour overseas he returned to the US in 1946, was honorably discharged with the rank of Major, and settled in Oklahoma City.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~okoklaho/obit/quillian-james.htm
"Grover. I am a major in the Engineers, stationed here for the present to look after this construction work. No, thank you, I should like to stay, but I must go back to my office."
http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/lit/drama/Shavi...
"Mr Ingram, a major in the Engineers, is known to be of impeccable character."
http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_403909.html
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To Nik-On/Off;
Whatever you decide to do with regards to at/with, etc, I wholeheartedly recommend using \"in the Engineers\" rather than Engineer-Major/Major-Engineer. This is from the Soviet times, so you can\'t say Corps of Engineers since this is strictly a western thing. Using \"in the engineers\" gives you flexibility. There\'s no need to specify service (ВВС, СВ, ВМФ, итд) and the reader will completely understand what is meant. \"...discharged...in the Engineers and went on to...\" I hope this helps.
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Vladimir Dubisskiy
: do not agree, as Engineers implies Engineers Corps, which in this case would be майор инж.войск in Russian. I'd use 'Major-Engineer' only (or 'Engineer-Major').
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Engineer could be anything Vladimir, from Combat Engineer to Ship's Engineer. We don't have a lot of context so this was my best choice under the circumstances. As a short sentence option I think it fits. Thank you.
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Dorene Cornwell
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Thank you very much Dorene : )
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got discharged in the rank of engineer-major
I guess
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... with the rank of engineer-major general, he became the director of the Department
of. Engineering. Defence barracks, taken into use as living premises ...
www.artun.ee/Uldinfo/Patareiprojekt/ Dokumendid/muinsusk.pdf
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\"got discharged with the rank of engineer-major\" - I guess this should be O.K.
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... but unglamorous, home service duties and was discharged with the rank of major.
... Acting Attorney-General during the absences overseas of the Hon. ...
www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5557/mcmahon.html
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... with the rank of engineer-major general, he became the director of the Department
of. Engineering. Defence barracks, taken into use as living premises ...
www.artun.ee/Uldinfo/Patareiprojekt/ Dokumendid/muinsusk.pdf
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\"got discharged with the rank of engineer-major\" - I guess this should be O.K.
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... but unglamorous, home service duties and was discharged with the rank of major.
... Acting Attorney-General during the absences overseas of the Hon. ...
www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5557/mcmahon.html
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Kirill Semenov
Ukraine
Ukraine
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Ukraine
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he retired as an (Army) engineer major
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Alexander Demyanov
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Software Engineering background
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retire from the military as a major
http://www.imamf.com/
I don't think there is an equivalent for "inzhener-major", and the context doesn't tell from which service the character is retired.
If it's "inzhenernye vojska", you may write: "...as a major, the engineering service" or "...as a major, the core of engineers" (as they call it here and in Britain).
I don't think there is an equivalent for "inzhener-major", and the context doesn't tell from which service the character is retired.
If it's "inzhenernye vojska", you may write: "...as a major, the engineering service" or "...as a major, the core of engineers" (as they call it here and in Britain).
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James Fite
United States
United States
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Specializes in field
United States
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demobilized at the rank of engineer major...
Additional context might help with this one. When talking about an individual, demobilization generally means that they were taken out of "deployable" status and put in a job that is "non-deployable." So if he was "demobilized" at a certain rank, he would remain in the military, but be moved to a position that was "non-deployable." For example, if one holds the rank of say Lt. Col. and is assigned to be the deputy wing commander, this would be considered a "non-deployable" position. However, if one is a major and is a division chief, that would be a "deployable" position. So, if someone was a division chief at the rank of major and then was promoted to Lt. Col. and assigned as the deputy wing commander, he would be "demobilized at the rank of..." Hope that makes sense. However, these words are not always used accurately by non-military folks like journalists, so they may have meant something entirely different, like "retired" or "discharged."
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Asker: JimF, - this person did not remain in the military.
In that case, I\'d go with \"discharged,\" because \"demobilized\" in English would imply that he remained in the military. IMHO, a better word choice in the vernacular would have been \"уволен\".
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Asker: JimF, - this person did not remain in the military.
In that case, I\'d go with \"discharged,\" because \"demobilized\" in English would imply that he remained in the military. IMHO, a better word choice in the vernacular would have been \"уволен\".
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Vladimir Dubisskiy
United States
United States
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United States
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Russian term (edited):
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receive a discharge from the army
... Wayne Harms received his discharge from the army at Camp Kilmer, ... a month after which he was sent to Camp Kilmer where he received his discharge. ...
www.tampicohistoricalsociety.citymax.com/ articles/article/1327506/12851.htm
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discharge with the rank of
or
at the rank of
... was promoted to Sergeant in 1995 and then later to the rank of Major in 1997. ... He received an Honorable Discharge ***with the rank of a Sergeant***. ...
www.eastaltonvillage.org/PDProfiles.htm
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... plaintiff the rank of major at retirement. The plaintiff asks the court to reverse ... record to show his discharge in 1964 **at the rank of lieutenant **...
www.dcd.uscourts.gov/01-1916a.pdf
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http://www.siue.edu/ROTC/rotc13.htm
Тут о военных кадрах с образованием. Может пригодится.
Главное, чтобы звание инженер-майор в английском не спуталось с \"major (in) engineering\". They put (my ROTC link) \"Major, Engineer\". And the military rank has to go first, I believe.
Major-Engineer
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In xxx he received a discharge (\"from the army\") with the rank of Major-Engineer and entered ... (or joined)
\"from the army\") can be dropped, as redundant, because it is quite clear considering some prevoius info that the person was serving in the army.
www.tampicohistoricalsociety.citymax.com/ articles/article/1327506/12851.htm
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discharge with the rank of
or
at the rank of
... was promoted to Sergeant in 1995 and then later to the rank of Major in 1997. ... He received an Honorable Discharge ***with the rank of a Sergeant***. ...
www.eastaltonvillage.org/PDProfiles.htm
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... plaintiff the rank of major at retirement. The plaintiff asks the court to reverse ... record to show his discharge in 1964 **at the rank of lieutenant **...
www.dcd.uscourts.gov/01-1916a.pdf
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http://www.siue.edu/ROTC/rotc13.htm
Тут о военных кадрах с образованием. Может пригодится.
Главное, чтобы звание инженер-майор в английском не спуталось с \"major (in) engineering\". They put (my ROTC link) \"Major, Engineer\". And the military rank has to go first, I believe.
Major-Engineer
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In xxx he received a discharge (\"from the army\") with the rank of Major-Engineer and entered ... (or joined)
\"from the army\") can be dropped, as redundant, because it is quite clear considering some prevoius info that the person was serving in the army.
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Dorene Cornwell
: Was discharged from (whichever branch of the armed forces) at the rank of ...but I would like to see a citation, not just a literal translation about the rank
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thank you, "he received a discharge" sounds better to me then using Passive "was discharged". Passive is always better to avoid.
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The table here shows that the branch does not matter (no way I can copy it here)
http://www.soldat.ru/spravka/rank/table10.html
My suggestion would be retired in a rank of Major, Military Engineer
http://www.soldat.ru/spravka/rank/table10.html
My suggestion would be retired in a rank of Major, Military Engineer
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Robert Donahue (X)
: I agree with you that the service isn't important, but "in" the rank as you use it won't fit. Served IN the military AS a Major. You could say he retired in the grade of Major. Totally acceptable, but awkward sounding.
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I'm not sure myself, hard to find an equivalent...
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