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French term
une dernière manche fut jouée par Hitler lui-même
French to English
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Contexte :
Puis ce fut l’intervention personnelle de Goering mettant fin à l’hégémonie de son collègue. Le Reichsmarschall dicta sa loi à l’Einsatzstab jusqu’à l’été 1942.
Au cours de cette même année Rosenberg tenta de reprendre en mains l’organisation tout entière, et parvint à repousser Goering au second plan, avec l’accord tacite de Berlin.
Enfin une dernière manche fut jouée par Hitler lui-même déci dant de liquider l’ERR au profit du « Sonderauftrag Linz », où à ses côtés dominait Martin Bormann, et dont Alfred Rosenberg ne faisait même pas partie.
Merci Beaucoup,
Barbara
Puis ce fut l’intervention personnelle de Goering mettant fin à l’hégémonie de son collègue. Le Reichsmarschall dicta sa loi à l’Einsatzstab jusqu’à l’été 1942.
Au cours de cette même année Rosenberg tenta de reprendre en mains l’organisation tout entière, et parvint à repousser Goering au second plan, avec l’accord tacite de Berlin.
Enfin une dernière manche fut jouée par Hitler lui-même déci dant de liquider l’ERR au profit du « Sonderauftrag Linz », où à ses côtés dominait Martin Bormann, et dont Alfred Rosenberg ne faisait même pas partie.
Merci Beaucoup,
Barbara
Proposed translations
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Hitler played the last round
Or “the last round was played by H”
Peer comment(s):
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Tomasso
: one last round, maybe one last inning , overtime? one last round of overtime, overtime round?? Je ne sais
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Thank you, Tomasso. For suggestions as well. I would say just "last round", but tastes differ
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Daryo
: or the "last set" if you want a parallel with tennis
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Thanks, Daryo!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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one final manouevre was executed by Hitler himself
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Hitler himself made a last-ditch attempt.
This means a final effort after several failures.
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Tony M
: There is nothing in the source text to suggest this element of last-ditch / desperation; in fact, it could eqaully well be 'to put and end to it' — Overtranslation, as this stands.
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AllegroTrans
: This suggests Hitler was losing/struggling and I don't think that was the case at all
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Daryo
: "after several failures"? I can't see any "repeated failures" by Hitler - he seems to avoid getting involved until finally simply wading in and settling the dispute.
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Daryo and Allegro, I thought the text referred to the failures of Goebbels to get his hands on these works of art. This text has been mostly about Goebbels, as I have inferred from following it.
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Emmanuella
: Goering and. not Goebbels
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Hitler himself dealt a parting shot
Might work?
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David Hollywood
: "parting shot" is close but I don't think it quite reflects the full meaning
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3 hrs
Hitler (himself) trumped them all/played the final trump (card)
might work
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reflects his megalomania and he wasn't ever likely to display desperation in any kind or form...
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(shape or form)
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no matter how much he may have felt it...
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and the "une" is covered IMO
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"manche" is "hand" in card games (and I play bridge) but I thinks it would be ok to say "trump" in your context...
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"think" oeuf course
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by deciding to etc.
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reflects his megalomania and he wasn't ever likely to display desperation in any kind or form...
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(shape or form)
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no matter how much he may have felt it...
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and the "une" is covered IMO
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"manche" is "hand" in card games (and I play bridge) but I thinks it would be ok to say "trump" in your context...
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"think" oeuf course
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by deciding to etc.
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Hitler himself played the final round/played the end game
Pour la dernière manche, Mme Nearing mène par 21 à 16.
As we enter our final round, Mrs. Nearing leads by a score of 21 to 16.
Tout se joue en cette dernière manche.
It's all to this final round.
https://context.reverso.net/translation/french-english/derni...
La dernière manche est donc d'une importance cruciale, tant pour Israël que pour le Hamas.
The end game - for both Israel and Hamas - is thus crucially important.
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It was game, set and match to Hitler
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Hitler had the last word
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Hitler called the final shot/had the final say
Hello all
I've read all the suggestion and although they are closer linguistically to the French then mine, I don't think they sit nicely with what follows:
for e.g. "Hitler played the last round, deciding to..."
In the French, it's not just that Hitler entered the fray, but that his decision was final.
And when you call the final shot/have the final say, this sits well with what that shot/say was (the decision)
In the suggestions, the one for me closest to this is about Hitler trumping them all
But I've decided to put up my own suggestion instead
I've read all the suggestion and although they are closer linguistically to the French then mine, I don't think they sit nicely with what follows:
for e.g. "Hitler played the last round, deciding to..."
In the French, it's not just that Hitler entered the fray, but that his decision was final.
And when you call the final shot/have the final say, this sits well with what that shot/say was (the decision)
In the suggestions, the one for me closest to this is about Hitler trumping them all
But I've decided to put up my own suggestion instead
Example sentence:
Hitler called the final shot/had the final say, deciding to
1 day 4 hrs
a final stroke had been played by Hitler himself
mabye chance back to the passive, the tendse to the pluperfect and the emphasis to a negative connotation of 'pulling a flanker' (BrE slang), though the asker already seems to have made up her mind on the 'right' answer.
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maybe change back.... tense...
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maybe change back.... tense...
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Pulling a stroke is a phrase used in Ireland (?) to describe an act of deceit performed for personal gain
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1 day 19 hrs
the final hand was "dealt"/"played" by Hitler himself
I see the officers of these ranks almost playing games with lives, which could be used in this card-playing idiom.
DEAL A/THE HAND
1. Literally, ......
2. By extension, to accord someone their fortune or fate in life at random.
Look, life's going to deal you a hand, good or bad, and it's up to you do make of it what you will.
"Sometimes I get down about the accident, but then I remember that if I hadn't been dealt this hand, I would never have met the love of my life in intensive care."
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"The hedge funds DEALT THE FINAL HAND, but the vulnerability was already there and she went straight and determinedly for it."
https://www.ft.com/content/a950f836-ede9-11df-8616-00144feab...
"The German leadership would probably be thrown off balance by Hitler's many impressive victories, plus 7 or more years of Nazi propaganda, plus their own inherent arrogance, and judge they need to play the HAND THAT HITLER DEALT."
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/what-if-hitle...
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Phrase:
The actual phrase here comes here from the idiom "To play the hand you are dealt", which being quite commonly understood/used in English, can easily be re-structured or played with, as I tried to do.
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/play the hand you are d...
DEAL A/THE HAND
1. Literally, ......
2. By extension, to accord someone their fortune or fate in life at random.
Look, life's going to deal you a hand, good or bad, and it's up to you do make of it what you will.
"Sometimes I get down about the accident, but then I remember that if I hadn't been dealt this hand, I would never have met the love of my life in intensive care."
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"The hedge funds DEALT THE FINAL HAND, but the vulnerability was already there and she went straight and determinedly for it."
https://www.ft.com/content/a950f836-ede9-11df-8616-00144feab...
"The German leadership would probably be thrown off balance by Hitler's many impressive victories, plus 7 or more years of Nazi propaganda, plus their own inherent arrogance, and judge they need to play the HAND THAT HITLER DEALT."
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/what-if-hitle...
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Phrase:
The actual phrase here comes here from the idiom "To play the hand you are dealt", which being quite commonly understood/used in English, can easily be re-structured or played with, as I tried to do.
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/play the hand you are d...
Example sentence:
"Working for the Japanese was a matter of pragmatism for the police, but patriotism and decency PLAYED THE FINAL HAND. "
Peer comment(s):
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Mpoma
: "Played". Plus I would have said "a final hand" (can't see any particular reason to change to a def. article). Jouer une manche comes straight from the card game bridge and works just as well in English.
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Thank you
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2 days 5 hrs
the last move was made by Hitler himself
Like the last move in a chess game - checkmate.
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Checkmate (often shortened to mate) is a game position in chess and other chess-like games in which a player's king is in check (threatened with capture) and there is no possible escape. Checkmating the opponent wins the game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate
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Checkmate (often shortened to mate) is a game position in chess and other chess-like games in which a player's king is in check (threatened with capture) and there is no possible escape. Checkmating the opponent wins the game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate
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