Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
место забоя и разделки
English translation:
kill site
Added to glossary by
Alan Campbell
Dec 12, 2006 16:45
17 yrs ago
Russian term
место забоя и разделки
Russian to English
Science
Archaeology
Theory of Soviet archaeology
This is describing a Palaeolithic site in the Tomsk region and the research of N. F. Kashchenko in 1901.
Памятник представлял собой образец "места забоя и разделки", содержавший остатки одной туши мамонта в сопровождении углей и немногочисленных каменных орудий.
Памятник представлял собой образец "места забоя и разделки", содержавший остатки одной туши мамонта в сопровождении углей и немногочисленных каменных орудий.
Proposed translations
(English)
4 | Mammoth Site or Elephant-Kill Site (prob. Mammoth-kill site) | Vladimir Dubisskiy |
3 +4 | place for butchering | Zaur Bahramov |
4 | butching site | Valery Kaminski |
4 | slaughter and dressing site | Roman Bardachev |
Proposed translations
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Mammoth Site or Elephant-Kill Site (prob. Mammoth-kill site)
That's how they call the place where archeologists find butchering tools, coals, bones etc.
Probably the name of the location or of the person who found it goes first.
Check below (i put ** there):
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0002-7316(195907)25:1<2:TLM...
The Lehner Mammoth Site, Southeastern Arizona
Abstract
In 1955-56 the Arizona State Museum excavated an **elephant-kill site** on the Lehner ranch in the San Pedro valley, near Hereford, Arizona, and found 13 projectiles, mainly Clovis fluted points, **eight butchering tools, and charcoal from two fires among the remains of nine immature mammoths** and elements of horse, bison, and tapir. Bones and artifacts occurred on and in gravels of a former perennial stream exposed in the modern arroyo bank. Most or all of the animals were probably killed over a comparatively short period by hunters identified with the Llano complex by the Clovis points. The Lehner site and the nearby Naco site represent the southwesternmost extent of the presently known range of the Llano complex. The post-kill sequence of alluviation and erosion supports a geological age of 13,000 or more years for both bones and artifacts. Arizona, Michigan, and Copenhagen radiocarbon measurements of hearth charcoal indicate a date of 11,000 to 12,000 B.P. Since these dates are substantially older than the oldest radiocarbon assays for the Sulphur Spring stage of the Cochise culture, it is probable that the transition from big-game hunting to collecting is reflected in the change from Llano complex to Cochise culture, and that this shift in economic emphasis took place before the complete extinction of the late Pleistocene megafauna.
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The Tomsk Mammoth Site
or
The Kashchenko Mammoth Site, Tomsk Region
Probably the name of the location or of the person who found it goes first.
Check below (i put ** there):
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0002-7316(195907)25:1<2:TLM...
The Lehner Mammoth Site, Southeastern Arizona
Abstract
In 1955-56 the Arizona State Museum excavated an **elephant-kill site** on the Lehner ranch in the San Pedro valley, near Hereford, Arizona, and found 13 projectiles, mainly Clovis fluted points, **eight butchering tools, and charcoal from two fires among the remains of nine immature mammoths** and elements of horse, bison, and tapir. Bones and artifacts occurred on and in gravels of a former perennial stream exposed in the modern arroyo bank. Most or all of the animals were probably killed over a comparatively short period by hunters identified with the Llano complex by the Clovis points. The Lehner site and the nearby Naco site represent the southwesternmost extent of the presently known range of the Llano complex. The post-kill sequence of alluviation and erosion supports a geological age of 13,000 or more years for both bones and artifacts. Arizona, Michigan, and Copenhagen radiocarbon measurements of hearth charcoal indicate a date of 11,000 to 12,000 B.P. Since these dates are substantially older than the oldest radiocarbon assays for the Sulphur Spring stage of the Cochise culture, it is probable that the transition from big-game hunting to collecting is reflected in the change from Llano complex to Cochise culture, and that this shift in economic emphasis took place before the complete extinction of the late Pleistocene megafauna.
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The Tomsk Mammoth Site
or
The Kashchenko Mammoth Site, Tomsk Region
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "This seems to be a commonly used phrase and feels right.
Many thanks!"
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place for butchering
place for butchering
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или slaughtering and butchering
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Note added at 4 mins (2006-12-12 16:49:52 GMT)
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или slaughtering and butchering
Peer comment(s):
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Sergei Tumanov
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Спасибо, Сергей!
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Dorene Cornwell
: check and English monolingual dictionary: even through it's two words in Russian, I think just butchering covers it in English.
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Many thanks!
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Kevin Kelly
: With Dorene, especially since the context is killing and butchering mammoths. The killing would by necessity take place wherever the hunters were able to bring down the animal. I think "butchering site" would cover it.
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Many thanks!
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Marta Argat
: Kevin, the place was not for killing mammoths, sure, but those prehistoric people could slaughter any smaller already wounded, captured game on this site the other time.
9 hrs
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Many thanks!
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4 hrs
butching site
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These and the fact that the bone weren't in their anatomical position, leads to the interpretation that Gröbern was a killing and butching site. ...
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Note added at 4 час (2006-12-12 21:06:24 GMT)
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These and the fact that the bone weren't in their anatomical position, leads to the interpretation that Gröbern was a killing and butching site. ...
5 hrs
slaughter and dressing site
imho, lots of hits in ggl, too
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