Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
страхователь
English translation:
policy-holder or insured, depending on context
Added to glossary by
Lina Episheva
Jun 30, 2009 06:57
14 yrs ago
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Russian term
страхователь
Russian to English
Bus/Financial
Insurance
Надоело дискутировать на эту тему. И так: insuree? insurant? policy holder, insured, assured или insurer прошу не предлогать.
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +5 | policy-holder or insured, depending on context | Lina Episheva |
4 +1 | insurant | Alexander Ryshow |
4 | insured | Zoryana Dorak |
3 | owner | a05 |
References
вот гляньте | danya |
Change log
Jul 7, 2009 17:35: Lina Episheva Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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policy-holder or insured, depending on context
Леван, этот вопрос уже обсуждается вот здесь http://www.proz.com/kudoz/russian_to_english/insurance/33236...
Мы решили назвать так: insurer - страховщик, policy-holder - страхователь, insured - застрахованное лицо.
Вот например:
Assured - застрахованное лицо (или застрахованный или страхователь) - another name for an insured. In the UK the assured is a person (or people) who has entered into a life assurance contract with a life office and is a policyholder. The policy on whose life the policy is taken out is known as the life assured. The assured and life assured are often the same person but not always. In the USA the expression insured is used. In life insurance, the insured is the person who has entered into contract and on whose life the policy is written. On the death of the insured, the face amount of the policy passes to the beneficiary. A party who is a potential beneficiary of an insurance contract. The synonym insured is more commonly used. The party who is entitled to receive money under an insurance contract on the happening of a stated contingency or event. The assured is also sometimes referred to as insured....
Ссылки даются на этом же сайте в разделе discussions
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Policy-holder IS responsible for paying insurance premium. See this link http://encyclopedia.stateuniversity.com/pages/13505/life-ins... How Life Insurance works
Life insurance is a contract between the policy owner and the insurer, where the insurer agrees to pay a sum of money upon the occurrence of the insured's death. In return, the policyowner (or policy payor) agrees to pay a stipulated amount called a premium at regular intervals.
Read more: http://encyclopedia.stateuniversity.com/pages/13505/life-ins...
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Вот еще:
There are three parties in a life insurance transaction; the insurer, the insured, and the owner of the policy (policyholder), although the owner and the insured are often the same person. For example, if Qwanda buys a policy on his own life, he is both the owner and the insured. But if Wanda, his wife, buys a policy on Qwanda's life, she is the owner and he is the insured. The owner of the policy is called the grantee (he or she will be the person who will pay for the policy). The beneficiary is the person or persons who will receive the policy proceeds upon the death of the insured. The beneficiary is not a party to the policy, but is designated by the owner, who may change the beneficiary unless the policy has an irrevocable beneficiary designation. With an irrevocable beneficiary, that beneficiary must agree to changes in beneficiary, policy assignment, or borrowing of cash value.
Read more: http://encyclopedia.stateuniversity.com/pages/13505/life-ins...
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Продолжение:
lifetime online insurance is a contract between the policy owner and the insurance firm, in which the latter agrees to disburse a sum of money when the insured party dies. As part of the deal, the policyowner (or grantee) agrees to remit a specified sum of money, referred to as an insurance premium, at regular intervals. There are three parties in a lifetime online insurance transaction; the insurer, the insured, and the owner of the policy (policy owner), though the owner and the insured are often the same individual. The owner of the policy is referred to as the policy payor. Another noteworthy person who participates (if only indirectly) in the transaction is the beneficiary. This is the party or parties who are to get the online life insurance proceeds upon the death of the insured. The named beneficiary isn`t a party to the insurance policy, but is chosen by the policyowner, who is entitled to alter the designated beneficiary, except when the insurance contract has an `irrevocable beneficiary` clause. With an irrevocable beneficiary, that individual will have to agree to changes in beneficiary policy assignment, or borrowing of cash value.
Мы решили назвать так: insurer - страховщик, policy-holder - страхователь, insured - застрахованное лицо.
Вот например:
Assured - застрахованное лицо (или застрахованный или страхователь) - another name for an insured. In the UK the assured is a person (or people) who has entered into a life assurance contract with a life office and is a policyholder. The policy on whose life the policy is taken out is known as the life assured. The assured and life assured are often the same person but not always. In the USA the expression insured is used. In life insurance, the insured is the person who has entered into contract and on whose life the policy is written. On the death of the insured, the face amount of the policy passes to the beneficiary. A party who is a potential beneficiary of an insurance contract. The synonym insured is more commonly used. The party who is entitled to receive money under an insurance contract on the happening of a stated contingency or event. The assured is also sometimes referred to as insured....
Ссылки даются на этом же сайте в разделе discussions
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Note added at 1 hr (2009-06-30 08:47:54 GMT)
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Policy-holder IS responsible for paying insurance premium. See this link http://encyclopedia.stateuniversity.com/pages/13505/life-ins... How Life Insurance works
Life insurance is a contract between the policy owner and the insurer, where the insurer agrees to pay a sum of money upon the occurrence of the insured's death. In return, the policyowner (or policy payor) agrees to pay a stipulated amount called a premium at regular intervals.
Read more: http://encyclopedia.stateuniversity.com/pages/13505/life-ins...
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Note added at 1 hr (2009-06-30 08:49:08 GMT)
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Вот еще:
There are three parties in a life insurance transaction; the insurer, the insured, and the owner of the policy (policyholder), although the owner and the insured are often the same person. For example, if Qwanda buys a policy on his own life, he is both the owner and the insured. But if Wanda, his wife, buys a policy on Qwanda's life, she is the owner and he is the insured. The owner of the policy is called the grantee (he or she will be the person who will pay for the policy). The beneficiary is the person or persons who will receive the policy proceeds upon the death of the insured. The beneficiary is not a party to the policy, but is designated by the owner, who may change the beneficiary unless the policy has an irrevocable beneficiary designation. With an irrevocable beneficiary, that beneficiary must agree to changes in beneficiary, policy assignment, or borrowing of cash value.
Read more: http://encyclopedia.stateuniversity.com/pages/13505/life-ins...
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Note added at 1 hr (2009-06-30 08:50:36 GMT)
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Продолжение:
lifetime online insurance is a contract between the policy owner and the insurance firm, in which the latter agrees to disburse a sum of money when the insured party dies. As part of the deal, the policyowner (or grantee) agrees to remit a specified sum of money, referred to as an insurance premium, at regular intervals. There are three parties in a lifetime online insurance transaction; the insurer, the insured, and the owner of the policy (policy owner), though the owner and the insured are often the same individual. The owner of the policy is referred to as the policy payor. Another noteworthy person who participates (if only indirectly) in the transaction is the beneficiary. This is the party or parties who are to get the online life insurance proceeds upon the death of the insured. The named beneficiary isn`t a party to the insurance policy, but is chosen by the policyowner, who is entitled to alter the designated beneficiary, except when the insurance contract has an `irrevocable beneficiary` clause. With an irrevocable beneficiary, that individual will have to agree to changes in beneficiary policy assignment, or borrowing of cash value.
Note from asker:
policy-holder or insured - это тоже застрахованное лицо. Оно может и не быть ответственным за взносы. |
Why do you consider contractual relations only between two sides? :-) |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
David Knowles
: We discussed this last week (?) and I think "policy-holder" is clear and avoids worryng about endings (ee vs er).
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Thank you, David, but the asker still has doubts about this term. He thinks that policy-holder is not always responsible for insurance premium payments
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agree |
TechLawDC
: Осторожно! Используйте контексте.
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спасибо
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agree |
Henry Schroeder
: не insured - это было бы на другой стороне, но policy-holder тоже в порядке
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спасибо
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agree |
koundelev
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спасибо
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agree |
Iosif JUHASZ
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Thank you
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Comment: "Thank you all! I selected this answer despite I strongly disagree thereto. Please, DO NOT add to the glossary!"
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insured
insured
СТРАХОВАТЕЛЬ (insured) — юридическое или дееспособное физическое лицо, которое заключило договор страхования (или является С. согласно действующему законодательству), уплатила надлежащие взносы и имеет право в случае наступления страхового случая получить возмещение в пределах застрахованной ответственности или страховой суммы, обусловленной в полисе
http://eia.com.ua/ru/help/dictionary/?print
СТРАХОВАТЕЛЬ (insured) — юридическое или дееспособное физическое лицо, которое заключило договор страхования (или является С. согласно действующему законодательству), уплатила надлежащие взносы и имеет право в случае наступления страхового случая получить возмещение в пределах застрахованной ответственности или страховой суммы, обусловленной в полисе
http://eia.com.ua/ru/help/dictionary/?print
Note from asker:
insured - это застрахованное лицо. Оно может и не быть ответственным за взносы. |
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insurant
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Страхователь
англ. insurant
физическое или юридическое лицо, страхующее свои ценности, вступающее со страховщиком в силу закона или двусторонней сделки - договора страхования, в гражданско-правовые отношения. С. уплачивает страховые взносы и имеет право по закону или на основе договора получить страховое возмещение или страховую сумму при наступлении страхового случая. С. вправе заключать договоры о страховании третьих лиц в пользу последних и назначать физических или юридических лиц (выгодоприобретателей) для получения страховых выплат.
Бизнес-словарь http://mirslovarei.com/content_biz/Straxovatel-12560.html
insurant
(n) выплачивающее страховые взносы лицо; страхователь
English Russian Lingvistica dictionary http://www.babylon.com/definition/insurant/Russian
insurant
страхователь, лицо, выплачивающее страховые взносы
Словарь по экономике и финансам (англо-русский) http://www.diclib.com/cgi-bin/d1.cgi?l=ru&base=xn_economy&pa...
Note from asker:
а ссылк-а/и? :-) |
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Henry Schroeder
: звучит странно американцу
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agree |
Rositsa Georgieva
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Спасибо!
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owner
В первой ссылке проводят разграничение так:
The owner of a life insurance policy is the one who has the rights that are stipulated in the contract. These include the right to name a beneficiary; the right to participating dividends; the right to surrender the policy for its cash value; and the right to transfer ownership. Очевидно, это тот кто оформляет договор и платит взносы -- страхователь
The insured, who is often the owner of the policy, is the person whose death causes the insurer to pay the death claim to the beneficiary.
Это застрахованное лицо, то есть тот, с кем может приключиться страховой случай.
The beneficiary can be a person, trust, estate, or business.
Это тот, кто получит деньги -- выгодоприобретатель?
Пример -- жена (страхователь) застраховала жизнь мужа (застрахованное лицо) в пользу детей -- все три стороны договора разные.
При этом, объективности ради, надо признать, что в большинстве источников такое разграничение не проводится в полной мере, и профессиональные писатели на эту тему страхователя называют insured.
Например, во второй ссылке
an insured or policyholder is the person or entity buying the insurance
Здесь же есть и beneficiary:
the parties (the insurer, the insured, the beneficiaries), из чего ясно, что они совмещают owner и insured. Это же происходит во многих практических разъяснениях, поэтому для перевода надо заморачиваться с разными словами, только если действительно это разграничение важно в контексте.
The owner of a life insurance policy is the one who has the rights that are stipulated in the contract. These include the right to name a beneficiary; the right to participating dividends; the right to surrender the policy for its cash value; and the right to transfer ownership. Очевидно, это тот кто оформляет договор и платит взносы -- страхователь
The insured, who is often the owner of the policy, is the person whose death causes the insurer to pay the death claim to the beneficiary.
Это застрахованное лицо, то есть тот, с кем может приключиться страховой случай.
The beneficiary can be a person, trust, estate, or business.
Это тот, кто получит деньги -- выгодоприобретатель?
Пример -- жена (страхователь) застраховала жизнь мужа (застрахованное лицо) в пользу детей -- все три стороны договора разные.
При этом, объективности ради, надо признать, что в большинстве источников такое разграничение не проводится в полной мере, и профессиональные писатели на эту тему страхователя называют insured.
Например, во второй ссылке
an insured or policyholder is the person or entity buying the insurance
Здесь же есть и beneficiary:
the parties (the insurer, the insured, the beneficiaries), из чего ясно, что они совмещают owner и insured. Это же происходит во многих практических разъяснениях, поэтому для перевода надо заморачиваться с разными словами, только если действительно это разграничение важно в контексте.
Note from asker:
Весьма интересно! Странно только, что коллеги "повалили" к другому ответу... |
Reference comments
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Reference:
вот гляньте
http://multitran.ru/c/m.exe?a=4&MessNum=172931&l1=1&l2=2&Sea...
http://multitran.ru/c/m.exe?a=4&MessNum=182179&l1=1&l2=2&Sea...
Insuror знает, что говорит))
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Insuror собаку съел, на МТ где-то были ссылки на его словарь страховых терминов
http://multitran.ru/c/m.exe?a=4&MessNum=182179&l1=1&l2=2&Sea...
Insuror знает, что говорит))
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Note added at 2 days14 hrs (2009-07-02 21:09:07 GMT)
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Insuror собаку съел, на МТ где-то были ссылки на его словарь страховых терминов
Note from asker:
Спасибо! Интересно! Вот только, поимите меня правильно, насколько можно верить Insuror? |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree |
Henry Schroeder
: в сша нормально говорить о insurer, с именно таким оканчанием, но меня не было на прошлой недели
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Discussion
I’ll still add the term to the glossary contrary to your request. I feel it's just a little way of giving back what we receive.