The Artificial Intelligence Bubble and assumptions around LLMs
Thread poster: Anna Sarah Krämer
Anna Sarah Krämer
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Apr 3

I wanted to share this interesting article with my esteemed colleagues

Humans are not perfectly vigilant (Cory Doctorow)

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Guessing the next word without understanding the meaning of the resulting sentence makes unsupervised LLMs unsuitable for high-stakes tasks. The whole AI bubble is based on convincing investors that one or more of the following is t... See more
I wanted to share this interesting article with my esteemed colleagues

Humans are not perfectly vigilant (Cory Doctorow)

[...]

Guessing the next word without understanding the meaning of the resulting sentence makes unsupervised LLMs unsuitable for high-stakes tasks. The whole AI bubble is based on convincing investors that one or more of the following is true:

I. There are low-stakes, high-value tasks that will recoup the massive costs of AI training and operation;

II. There are high-stakes, high-value tasks that can be made cheaper by adding an AI to a human operator;

III. Adding more training data to an AI will make it stop hallucinating, so that it can take over high-stakes, high-value tasks without a "human in the loop."

These are dubious propositions. There's a universe of low-stakes, low-value tasks – political disinformation, spam, fraud, academic cheating, nonconsensual porn, dialog for video-game NPCs – but none of them seem likely to generate enough revenue for AI companies to justify the billions spent on models, nor the trillions in valuation attributed to AI companies [...]
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Daryo
Matthieu Ledoré
 
Joakim Braun
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No technology can ever replace the skill of a human spinner (translator?) Apr 4

There is lots of AI hype and many caveats and possibly insoluble technical problems with it. But dismissing the AI revolution is absurd. It's only year 1 or 2 of the AI-in-the-office age. Lots of investors lost money in the dotcom bubble too, but we're living in a dotcom world now.

Enrique Bjarne Strand Ferrer
 
Daryo
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The egg and the omelette ... Apr 5

Joakim Braun wrote:

There is lots of AI hype and many caveats and possibly insoluble technical problems with it. But dismissing the AI revolution is absurd. It's only year 1 or 2 of the AI-in-the-office age. Lots of investors lost money in the dotcom bubble too, but we're living in a dotcom world now.


True.

But it's a pretty meager consolation when a company founded on hype ("we'll do everything with AI") sinks and drags down with them a lot of people who never asked to be dragged into that business model.
see https://www.proz.com/forum/money_matters/366833-my_client_entered_a_provisional_insolvency_proceedings.html

"You can't get results without making mistakes / you can't make an omelette without braking few eggs" does sound like a sound principle - as long you're not the unwitting egg.

No one would find it acceptable if people buying new cars were used as paying guinea pigs for some half-baked novel "technological marvel". But somehow it's OK with AI?

[Edited at 2024-04-05 05:41 GMT]


Marina Aleyeva
 
Joakim Braun
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But Apr 5

Daryo wrote:

No one would find it acceptable if people buying new cars were used as paying guinea pigs for some half-baked novel "technological marvel". But somehow it's OK with AI?


But that's exactly what is happening with self-driving technology.
And the other day much-higher-than-expected maintenance costs of electric vehicles was in the news.

(I'm not dissing those technologies, but they're in a state of flux, just like AI is or any other new, advanced tech in its first few years.)


 
Paweł Hamerski
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mybe interesting but not Apr 5

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