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Vladimir Pochinov 
Russian Federation
Local time: 20:38
English to Russian
TOPIC STARTER | Grind and poor work-life balance for most college graduates for at least a decade | Jul 10, 2022 |
Dan Lucas wrote:
The other question I always find myself wanting to ask is what these people think is going on in other professions.
Do they think that there is a safe place where there is no stress, no competition, and where every day is a pleasant 9 to 5? Do they really think that there are meaningful professions where the top-ranked people don't have to work hard? Medicine? Finance? Law? Entrepreneurs? Really? They think people just walk out of high school into one of these professions and magically, 20 years later, they're successful and stable? That's not the way it works. It's grind and poor work-life balance for at least a couple of decades.
Unless you are fortunate to be born into a family of a Russian oligarch or top-level official --
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Yes, it is a real disgrace, the other day for a highly complex technical project a Russian agency offered me 0.014. Obviously at that price you can only offer shit to the client. Although they have always underpaid some agencies take it to the extreme. In this pair the work has dropped 70-80% since February.
| | | | Dan Lucas
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:38
Member (2014)
Japanese to English
| Not much assistance going on round here | Jul 11, 2022 |
Vladimir Pochinov wrote: Unless you are fortunate to be born into a family of a Russian oligarch or top-level official --
No oligarchs in my life, I'm pretty sure. For better or for worse, I was not even one of those UK children who benefited from financial help from parents, such as by having them provide the deposit for a mortgage, and so on. I know many of my cohort who did receive such assistance, and who have done very well out of real estate as a result over the past couple of decades. Shrug. It is what it is.
Dan
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Sadek_A
Local time: 22:38
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- Who needs to own an apartment when they can have the same apartment for USD50 a month with utilities included?
- Surveys use something called "sampling", which in the case of job/pay studies doesn't and can't cover all workers, many of whom fail to -or choose not to- disclose their true and exact pay. Hence, the word "theoretical".
"Theoretical" didn't have to do with "being told off". It had to do with workers who weren't surveyed and had negative facts to report like indic... See more - Who needs to own an apartment when they can have the same apartment for USD50 a month with utilities included?
- Surveys use something called "sampling", which in the case of job/pay studies doesn't and can't cover all workers, many of whom fail to -or choose not to- disclose their true and exact pay. Hence, the word "theoretical".
"Theoretical" didn't have to do with "being told off". It had to do with workers who weren't surveyed and had negative facts to report like indicated in the links I provided.
Still, it was entertaining to read that last emotional upheaval, which I'm guessing was cooking up for quite sometime now.
- Free lunches and G7&"best countries*"
Why is it lunch, not breakfast, brunch, dinner or even supper?
Why is it always said by someone likely sailing free? Like those billionaires always saying that stupid "money is not everything"; yes, it isn't, but it strangely buys everything and you used it to buy everything you have, even your intimate relationships and your kids at given times!!! 😝😂
And, most importantly, there are free lunches everywhere. For offspring at their family house, for students at schools, for guests at BBQs, for the poor in shelters, etc.
Can we get a saying that doesn't have holes in it next time, please?
I believe in giving credit when credit is due. G7&"best countries*" are giving humanity advancement, but:
Does this mean they get to call "shotgun" at all times and keep the rest away from ever trying to lead that advancement?
Does this mean they get to cause harm to this "big apartment" we're all living in, by their stupidly lavish lifestyles? I know that numbers of their people are living poorly similar to others in other parts of the world, but isn't this more of a reason for those lifestyles to be downgraded a little?
*A term stated in a different thread here on ProZ.
Regards
Sadek (in case you already can't recognize me from my photo or my NAME right next to my post) ▲ Collapse
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Local time: 22:38
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Vladimir Pochinov wrote: Grind and poor work-life balance for most college graduates for at least a decade Unless you are fortunate to be born into a family of a Russian oligarch or top-level official --
You were complaining why again, Vladimir?
If you accept the forced "grind and poor" for "decades", what did you start the thread for then?
| | | | Vladimir Pochinov
Russian Federation
Local time: 20:38
English to Russian
TOPIC STARTER | Generalist vs specialist translators | Jul 11, 2022 |
Sadek_A wrote:
- There is no such a thing as "generalist vs. specialist translator".
Best translators in the history of time across the whole globe never ever specialized.
Really? Or do you mean literary translators? If so, they ARE specialist translators. They specialize on translating fiction books.
Do you know any translator who can produce adequate translations in all of the following subject fields: molecular biology, nuclear physics, accounting standards (GAAP, IFRS), criminal law, SEO, artificial intelligence and machine learning, microelectronics, cardiology, aircraft avionics, robotics, you name it. By 'adequate' I mean translations that would not make a subject matter expert (SME) flip out while reading.
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Sadek_A
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Vladimir Pochinov wrote:
Really? Or do you mean literary translators? If so, they ARE specialist translators. They specialize on translating fiction books.
Do you know any translator who can produce adequate translations in all of the following subject fields: molecular biology, nuclear physics, accounting standards (GAAP, IFRS), criminal law, SEO, artificial intelligence and machine learning, microelectronics, cardiology, aircraft avionics, robotics, you name it. By 'adequate' I mean translations that would not make a subject matter expert (SME) flip out while reading.
The list is endless, so I will give a couple of quick names:
- Abu Yūsuf Yaʻqūb ibn ʼIsḥāq aṣ-Ṣabbāḥ al-Kindī: translated Greek scientific (across all sciences) and philosophical texts (across different humanities).
- Gerard of Cremona: translated Arabic scientific and philosophical texts.
I, for one, translated in Biology, Physics, Accounting, Law, Lit., Marketing, and several others. They were all paid, subject-matter reviewed, and more than adequate
That said,...
an employer...say, a publishing company...hires you as a translator. They give you different texts to translate, you constantly refuse saying they're not your specialty. That's pretty much GAME OVER for you in that job!
That publishing company will NOT hire a couple of thousand translators, each of whom specialized in a (sub)domain, just for the company to have its different translations done from one month to the other. It's just absurd.
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| Huge difference | Jul 11, 2022 |
Dan Lucas wrote: Vladimir, this is pointless. I took the same approach once before, using government data and other survey data to show that, yes, people working in software or development in the US do have high median incomes. One presumes that the same applies in other first-world countries. I Regards, Dan
There s a huge difference between a software developer at Google and a guy who offers his services on Fiverr after a career in translation .
Top notch coders make a lot of money but usually they have a very solid background.
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